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CHITOWN1series · 01-16-2013, 09:20 AM

When i bought my 135i, one of the first things I began looking into was an exhaust system. After much research, I decided to go with the quad setup (in March of 2012). Out of the quad choices (not very many) I chose the Eisenmann race.

However, I want a louder exhaust and I was just looking to get some thoughts on whether some of you think it is worth it to switch to a berk race.

Currently I have AR design catted downpipes, berk resonated mid pipes and the Eisenmann quad race exhaust on my car with a icarbon carbon fiber quad diffuser. So switching would mean i need to find a new diffuser as well.

Any thoughts on this would be appreciated. Also, I am open to ideas about other exhaust systems. Just trying to see what my options may be. Thanks.

135Pats · 01-16-2013, 09:42 AM

If DPs+berk mids+Eisenmann race isn't loud enough for you...man you must really want it LOUD. Berk race is a muffler delete so it will certainly be louder, but it will also drone more. The resonated mids handle rasp very well, but the drone could be pretty intense esp. if you're 6AT. Berk is a good company though (see my mods), many people here run Berk race and seem very happy with it. You could sell the Eisenmann and have a good margin for a diffuser after getting the Berk setup.

foofopps · 01-16-2013, 10:21 AM

I have berk race, berk mids, and stock DPs if you want to hear it in person. I sent you a PM.

Grayson · 01-16-2013, 11:54 AM

I'd keep the current setup personally...

CGMike · 01-16-2013, 01:16 PM

You could always sell the catback (or even axle back) section and have an exhaust place fab you up a straight pipe set up that fits the diffuser? My plan was to buy a diffuser and have a catback made, it will save money, be exactly how I want it to look, and I can tweak the sound a little if I dont like it

donsaxena · 01-16-2013, 11:16 PM

Look into Hpf if you want loud and great performance. I also have ar catless dps.

jsmonet · 01-17-2013, 08:58 AM

Any video of the eisenmann? I think you are crazy to swap, but it's your call

trickcruiser · 01-17-2013, 09:42 AM

The setup that you have is really nice and I personally would see the Berk as a downgrade (still a VERY good exhaust).

If it were mine, I would look at catless DP's first.

Then if that is not loud enough, look into electronic cutouts. You could open them when your feeling the need to cause havoc and close them when your not trying to raise the dead.

CHITOWN1series · 01-17-2013, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CGMike

You could always sell the catback (or even axle back) section and have an exhaust place fab you up a straight pipe set up that fits the diffuser? My plan was to buy a diffuser and have a catback made, it will save money, be exactly how I want it to look, and I can tweak the sound a little if I dont like it

I dont know about having an exhaust shop fab one. First of all i have seen some on the forum and they just look like they are done poorly. And I wouldn't even know who to trust to do this in the Chicago area

CHITOWN1series · 01-17-2013, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by trickcruiser

The setup that you have is really nice and I personally would see the Berk as a downgrade (still a VERY good exhaust).

If it were mine, I would look at catless DP's first.

Then if that is not loud enough, look into electronic cutouts. You could open them when your feeling the need to cause havoc and close them when your not trying to raise the dead.

I have never seen electric cutouts for a 135i. Do you know of any...possibly a video. And I love my exhaust, its just I have always had loud cars and the eisenmann just isnt loud enough. I'm a young person, and I need to have something a little more obnoxious. I know how horrible that sounds but I just need something louder. I'm just playing with the idea at this point of swapping

BostonBeemah · 01-17-2013, 10:23 AM

check this out

basically a muffler delete but keeping the quad setup...

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=783926

Edit: Dont know if the hartage quad and the iCarbon have the same positioning for the pipes. Might have to do some research on that...

CHITOWN1series · 01-17-2013, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BostonBeemah

check this out

basically a muffler delete but keeping the quad setup...

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=783926

Edit: Dont know if the hartage quad and the iCarbon have the same positioning for the pipes. Might have to do some research on that...

That requires a different diffuser. If i was to stay quad i would try to keep my current diffuser. Mine exits at the sides and that one exits out the center. Thanks for posting though

trickcruiser · 01-17-2013, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CHITOWN1series

I have never seen electric cutouts for a 135i. Do you know of any...possibly a video. And I love my exhaust, its just I have always had loud cars and the eisenmann just isnt loud enough. I'm a young person, and I need to have something a little more obnoxious. I know how horrible that sounds but I just need something louder. I'm just playing with the idea at this point of swapping

This thread was running for some time over at N54tech. It started out being for a 135 but Byoung8 jumped in with his 335i and had some good success.
http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showth...t=10523&page=5

I really like the product that Byoung8 chose to use (photos on page 5)

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Another option might be the RPI quad? I am not sure how much it differs from your setup but I have been very happy with mine! This would let you keep your diffuser (I think).

Here are a couple vids that I had put together. Hope it helps man!

CHITOWN1series · 01-17-2013, 11:25 AM

When I had IND install my exhaust Eisenmann forgot to send the connecting pipe. Therefore, IND cut my stock exhaust and connected the exhaust that way. However, Eisenmann sent the connecting pipe and i had it installed. Also, IND gave me a stock 135i exhaust because of the mix up. Because of this, i have a stock connecting pipe just laying around. Therefore, I could get a cutout welded to that and just swap my connecting pipes. Thanks for the post. i may look into this more

CHITOWN1series · 01-17-2013, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CHITOWN1series

When I had IND install my exhaust Eisenmann forgot to send the connecting pipe. Therefore, IND cut my stock exhaust and connected the exhaust that way. However, Eisenmann sent the connecting pipe and i had it installed. Also, IND gave me a stock 135i exhaust because of the mix up. Because of this, i have a stock connecting pipe just laying around. Therefore, I could get a cutout welded to that and just swap my connecting pipes. Thanks for the post. i may look into this more

For example I could put the cutout here.

Let me know what you think.

And in this location it is easy access so i could even do a manual cutout instead of the electric and save money

trickcruiser · 01-17-2013, 04:43 PM

I think that would work.
Keep us posted!

Twhill19 · 01-17-2013, 05:07 PM

I talked to Berk about setting up a custom quad, full race exhaust a few weeks ago...They will custom fabricate it, but mentioned that I would probably need to bring the car to California...since I live in Boston...this may be a little further out of reach than I thought, but I may have to make the trek...I LOVE my berk full race and can only dream of the terror a full race quad setup would bring to the streets...egadss

CHITOWN1series · 01-17-2013, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Twhill19

I talked to Berk about setting up a custom quad, full race exhaust a few weeks ago...They will custom fabricate it, but mentioned that I would probably need to bring the car to California...since I live in Boston...this may be a little further out of reach than I thought, but I may have to make the trek...I LOVE my berk full race and can only dream of the terror a full race quad setup would bring to the streets...egadss

How much did they quote you?

Twhill19 · 01-17-2013, 05:10 PM

We never got around to that, I forgot to call them back...but they said they could definitely do it

Twhill19 · 01-17-2013, 05:11 PM

id shoot em an email, theyre pretty good on the customer service side

CHITOWN1series · 01-17-2013, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Twhill19

We never got around to that, I forgot to call them back...but they said they could definitely do it

But why would you need to go to cali?

Twhill19 · 01-17-2013, 05:12 PM

because thats where Berk is located...they would do the custom fabrication once the car was brought to their shop

01-16-2013, 09:20 AM	#1
CHITOWN1series Private First Class Drives: 2010 135i M (e82) Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Chicago Posts: 181 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2010 BMW 135i [4.50]	Switch from Eisenmann Quad Race to Berk race exhaust? When i bought my 135i, one of the first things I began looking into was an exhaust system. After much research, I decided to go with the quad setup (in March of 2012). Out of the quad choices (not very many) I chose the Eisenmann race. However, I want a louder exhaust and I was just looking to get some thoughts on whether some of you think it is worth it to switch to a berk race. Currently I have AR design catted downpipes, berk resonated mid pipes and the Eisenmann quad race exhaust on my car with a icarbon carbon fiber quad diffuser. So switching would mean i need to find a new diffuser as well. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated. Also, I am open to ideas about other exhaust systems. Just trying to see what my options may be. Thanks. Attached Images Last edited by CHITOWN1series; 01-16-2013 at 10:00 AM.
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01-16-2013, 09:42 AM	#2
135Pats Gooby Pls. Drives: 135i Join Date: May 2012 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,587 iTrader: (0)	If DPs+berk mids+Eisenmann race isn't loud enough for you...man you must really want it LOUD. Berk race is a muffler delete so it will certainly be louder, but it will also drone more. The resonated mids handle rasp very well, but the drone could be pretty intense esp. if you're 6AT. Berk is a good company though (see my mods), many people here run Berk race and seem very happy with it. You could sell the Eisenmann and have a good margin for a diffuser after getting the Berk setup. __________________ E88 FBO N54 Alpinweiss/Coral Red/Meisterschaft Race/Berk Resonated/Macht Schnell 3"/ER CP/Synapse/VRSF FMIC/BMS DCI/BMS Thermostat Delete/Rob Beck PCV/BMS OCC/Cobb 4.02/Alpina TCU Flash/Icarbon/3D Design/Cyba

01-16-2013, 11:54 AM	#4
Grayson Heisenberg Drives: 2008 135i Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 554 iTrader: (2)	I'd keep the current setup personally... __________________ AR Catless Downpipes \| Berk Full Street Exhaust \| HPF FMIC \| COBB AP \| aFe Magnum Stage 2 \| E93 M3 Front Sway Bar & Bushings \| Michelin Pilot Super Sports \| Hardwired Radar \| Eurotek BBS LM \| Schmiedmann LCI Blacklines \| BMW Performance: Spoiler, Diffuser, Shift Boot, E-Brake

01-16-2013, 01:16 PM	#5
CGMike Second Lieutenant Drives: 2011 135i Coupe Sport Join Date: May 2012 Location: Southern CA Posts: 200 iTrader: (0)	You could always sell the catback (or even axle back) section and have an exhaust place fab you up a straight pipe set up that fits the diffuser? My plan was to buy a diffuser and have a catback made, it will save money, be exactly how I want it to look, and I can tweak the sound a little if I dont like it __________________ 2011 Space Grey 135i Manual Coupe Sport 06 GTO , 59 Bug, 03 Dakota R/T, 03 SV650

01-16-2013, 11:16 PM	#6
donsaxena Private First Class Drives: BMW 135i Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: oklahoma city Posts: 165 iTrader: (0)	Look into Hpf if you want loud and great performance. I also have ar catless dps. __________________ BMW 135i Jet Black AT. Hpf intercooler, Hpf exhaust, injen intake, ER competition oil coolers, ER charge pipe, Tial BOV, AR catless DP,BMS OCC, VMR 718s 19s, BMW performance spoiler, agency power rear diffuser, slek lip (on highway somewhere), FXomar abs lip, Ohlins Suspension, All M3 bits, Cobb protuned, turner 3 clutch LSD, Escort 9500ci

01-16-2013, 10:21 AM	#3
foofopps Private First Class Drives: 135i Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Chicago Posts: 117 iTrader: (1)	I have berk race, berk mids, and stock DPs if you want to hear it in person. I sent you a PM.

01-17-2013, 08:58 AM	#7
jsmonet First Lieutenant Drives: 2012 135 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: so cal Posts: 396 iTrader: (2)	Any video of the eisenmann? I think you are crazy to swap, but it's your call __________________ 2012 135i. dinan stg3 \| ohlins dfv \| assorted rice \| hardest parker evAr

01-17-2013, 09:42 AM	#8
trickcruiser First Lieutenant Drives: E82 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 354 iTrader: (1)	The setup that you have is really nice and I personally would see the Berk as a downgrade (still a VERY good exhaust). If it were mine, I would look at catless DP's first. Then if that is not loud enough, look into electronic cutouts. You could open them when your feeling the need to cause havoc and close them when your not trying to raise the dead. __________________ FBO+Meth = Best to date (street tires) - 11.996 @ 118 93oct: 401/433 - 109oct: 433/473

01-17-2013, 10:23 AM	#11
BostonBeemah The Stig Drives: AW 135i 6spd Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Belmont, Ma Posts: 312 iTrader: (2)	check this out basically a muffler delete but keeping the quad setup... http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=783926 Edit: Dont know if the hartage quad and the iCarbon have the same positioning for the pipes. Might have to do some research on that... __________________ 2008 AW/BL 135illMods: JB4 G5 ISO, 2Step, Raceland DPs,Turbo Back Straight Pipes, BMS DCI, ER CP, HKS BOV, CM10 METH, P3 Vent Gauge Dragstrip: 1.81 60ft 12.2@113 NO METH DynoDayhttp://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15337

01-17-2013, 11:25 AM	#14
CHITOWN1series Private First Class Drives: 2010 135i M (e82) Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Chicago Posts: 181 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2010 BMW 135i [4.50]	When I had IND install my exhaust Eisenmann forgot to send the connecting pipe. Therefore, IND cut my stock exhaust and connected the exhaust that way. However, Eisenmann sent the connecting pipe and i had it installed. Also, IND gave me a stock 135i exhaust because of the mix up. Because of this, i have a stock connecting pipe just laying around. Therefore, I could get a cutout welded to that and just swap my connecting pipes. Thanks for the post. i may look into this more __________________ Apex Aero 7 wheels (gloss black) \| Nitto Invo tires \| aFe stage 2 dual cone intake \| gloss black kidney grilles \| City Vision H8 White Angel eyes \| 35% tints \| icarbon quad diffuser \| AR Design catted downpipes \| Berk Resonated Mid Pipes \| Eisenmann Quad Race Exhaust \|

01-17-2013, 04:43 PM	#16
trickcruiser First Lieutenant Drives: E82 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 354 iTrader: (1)	I think that would work. Keep us posted! __________________ FBO+Meth = Best to date (street tires) - 11.996 @ 118 93oct: 401/433 - 109oct: 433/473

01-17-2013, 05:07 PM	#17
Twhill19 hungry Drives: 2012 135i N55 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 438 iTrader: (0)	I talked to Berk about setting up a custom quad, full race exhaust a few weeks ago...They will custom fabricate it, but mentioned that I would probably need to bring the car to California...since I live in Boston...this may be a little further out of reach than I thought, but I may have to make the trek...I LOVE my berk full race and can only dream of the terror a full race quad setup would bring to the streets...egadss

01-17-2013, 05:10 PM	#19
Twhill19 hungry Drives: 2012 135i N55 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 438 iTrader: (0)	We never got around to that, I forgot to call them back...but they said they could definitely do it

01-17-2013, 05:11 PM	#20
Twhill19 hungry Drives: 2012 135i N55 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 438 iTrader: (0)	id shoot em an email, theyre pretty good on the customer service side

01-17-2013, 05:12 PM	#22
Twhill19 hungry Drives: 2012 135i N55 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 438 iTrader: (0)	because thats where Berk is located...they would do the custom fabrication once the car was brought to their shop

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