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      01-18-2013, 07:47 PM   #23
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don't understand why BMW would want to ruin its used car values.

not good news for current (not Pure Edition) M3 owners.

by the time a good looking M4 arrives in a couple of years time, a 2yo ($120k + on costs) 2013 M3 may fetch $100ish? how much would a $150 (+on costs) 2012, 2011 etc fetch?

Let's look for a good value low mileage 2yo E92M3 daily driver then.
I think it is great that they have done this with the pricing BUT its a double edged sword, as you said Donald, used $ will crash. I mean, you can already get a 70k E92 07 car for $75k.
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      01-18-2013, 07:56 PM   #24
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agree, pricing is attractive and heart is tempted. never owned a V8, let alone a V8 M3. head says no cos i can see a drop of $40k-$50k in 2+years. M3 or 1M is likely a good used buy in a couple of years.
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M3 still needs SC! But that is the price it should have been all along.
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      01-18-2013, 09:35 PM   #26
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agree, pricing is attractive and heart is tempted. never owned a V8, let alone a V8 M3. head says no cos i can see a drop of $40k-$50k in 2+years. M3 or 1M is likely a good used buy in a couple of years.
Having recently driven an m3 still prefer the 1m, plus IMO when you attempt to offload the stripped down m3 you would get killed in resale.
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      01-18-2013, 09:37 PM   #27
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I'm wondering if this M3 Pure is just pure edition III (i.e. for 2013). Specs look the same to me as the Pure edition & Pure Edition II, but there is a price drop.

New add looks very similar to this one from 2011:
http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-new...027-1ml55.html

Here's Pure Edition II:

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...257990001EB7E7
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      01-18-2013, 09:53 PM   #28
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agree, pricing is attractive and heart is tempted. never owned a V8, let alone a V8 M3. head says no cos i can see a drop of $40k-$50k in 2+years. M3 or 1M is likely a good used buy in a couple of years.
Having recently driven an m3 still prefer the 1m, plus IMO when you attempt to offload the stripped down m3 you would get killed in resale.
I think you'll find the full version buyers will get stung more than the "pure" buyers, oh and this will drive down the 1m resale as well as most peeps just look at the cover and will prefer an m3 over a 1m as it is perceived the better car
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      01-18-2013, 11:53 PM   #29
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It's more fair to have a widespread reduction in price across the range- in other words stop ripping off everyone on every model. In that case, yes you'll get hurt on resale, but buying your next car will be a greater $ saving in comparison.

How many years does the AUD need to be above parity before our asses stop being pulverised by car makers such as BMW? The 'long term' average of them hedging currency is a load of bullshit. Their profit margins from the Aussie market must be absolutely staggering, isn't BMW a public company? That information breakdown must be available somewhere to shareholders.
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      01-19-2013, 12:33 AM   #30
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Yes, but would you trade in your 1M for it?
Maybe... The two nights I had with one were pretty convincing, that noise is much more intoxicating than my 1Ms I'll have to see how the PI drive day goes
Ha. On track the v8 noise is intoxicating. Especially when you watch and hear it fly pass on the straight I was dreaming about the m3 the whole week after the corp drive.
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      01-19-2013, 02:33 AM   #31
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The coupe Rob is 18 months 2 years away, and you dreaming if you think the new one will be less than $160k. Great car at a great price IMHO, but I am glad I sold my '08 car last year.
So am I. Haha
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      01-19-2013, 06:10 AM   #32
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Yes, but would you trade in your 1M for it?
Maybe... The two nights I had with one were pretty convincing, that noise is much more intoxicating than my 1Ms I'll have to see how the PI drive day goes
Ha. On track the v8 noise is intoxicating. Especially when you watch and hear it fly pass on the straight I was dreaming about the m3 the whole week after the corp drive.
You should hear the 1M with an akra
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You should hear the 1M with an akra
Anyone kind enough to show me one in Melbourne?

Got in touch with the dealer, THIS pure will be around the 140k mark. The fact that they even took away folding mirrors is a bit ridiculous though
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      01-19-2013, 09:00 AM   #34
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Anyone kind enough to show me one in Melbourne?

Got in touch with the dealer, THIS pure will be around the 140k mark. The fact that they even took away folding mirrors is a bit ridiculous though
Vader will be down for the PI drive day, with akra hehehe
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      01-19-2013, 03:00 PM   #35
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If resale value is your main concern when buying a new car then DONT BUY. Most my cars have been new buys, some fectch ok others loose horribly, its just how it is in OZ, those who decided to hold on to their new car gain the most. I've owned many new euro makes, its more or less the same for most.
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      01-19-2013, 05:27 PM   #36
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M3 still needs SC! But that is the price it should have been all along.
Totally agreed on both points.
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      01-19-2013, 05:44 PM   #37
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If resale value is your main concern when buying a new car then DONT BUY. Most my cars have been new buys, some fectch ok others loose horribly, its just how it is in OZ, those who decided to hold on to their new car gain the most. I've owned many new euro makes, its more or less the same for most.

Agree with this. When I look back on my last three cars, all new buy Germans, I estimate that I lost an average of $1,000/month of ownership in resale value.

So mentally I now just assume a $1,000/month hit and hope for a pleasant surprise!
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Vader will be down for the PI drive day, with akra hehehe
The day just keeps getting better and better

One thing I don't understand about the Pure M3, is that if the competition pack, EDC, and M drive are all options now, does that mean they were all standard from the 07 cars?
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      01-19-2013, 07:25 PM   #39
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The day just keeps getting better and better

One thing I don't understand about the Pure M3, is that if the competition pack, EDC, and M drive are all options now, does that mean they were all standard from the 07 cars?
Comp pack was optioned until the pure edition. The others were standard, IIRC. When the Sedan came out they become options on the Sedan and hence cheaper price for the sedan.
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It's just another car maker, putting out another variant at another price point to get more sales.

There is a ~$50k gap in the 3 series pricing between the 335ci and the M3, gotta fill it with something to increase market share.

It's also a good tactic to make people look at the Pure and the cost of the options, then just decide to buy the full version because the numbers at the end look close anyway.
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I was at eastern creek recently and I could not keep pace with the 1Ms. It was my first time out to ec in this car admittedly so was not fully on the pace but I have been going to this track for 7 or 8 yrs now (mostly in a 135),so know it fairly well. Having said that, I still prefer the look and sound of the M3. Glad this car has come out to help devalue my asset more rapidly
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I was at eastern creek recently and I could not keep pace with the 1Ms. It was my first time out to ec in this car admittedly so was not fully on the pace but I have been going to this track for 7 or 8 yrs now (mostly in a 135),so know it fairly well. Having said that, I still prefer the look and sound of the M3. Glad this car has come out to help devalue my asset more rapidly

i agree the m3's struggle in the new twisty section, but are so quick on the straight and turn 1.

m3's need to have a 9.5 inch wide front and back 18" wheel set up with semi slicks to be really quick, quicker then a 1m, and less chance of an off too
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they dont suffer from heat stroke like the n54 though
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