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2010BMW135i · 10-15-2012, 10:20 PM

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Bought my 2010 135i bone stock. Installed a BMS Dual Cone Intake and had it tuned at Bren Tuning in MA. Now I’m putting out 415whp/440wtq. That’s a gain of 125whp / 148wtq over stock baseline, you can’t spend better money than that.

(HD vid' below)

MGallop · 10-15-2012, 10:34 PM

nice!! now grab yourself a DP and FMIC and call it a day!!

2010BMW135i · 10-15-2012, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PADLOCK

nice!! now grab yourself a DP and FMIC and call it a day!!

Exactly - both of those are definitely on the short list, Padlock.

ragingpanda · 10-16-2012, 12:20 AM

Any plans for some dragstrip runs?

Basheezy · 10-16-2012, 02:10 AM

Wow! Impressive numbers.

How much boost is it tuned for? and 91 octane?

RimasRS · 10-16-2012, 02:13 AM

Dyno w/o wheels and you are saying it's WHP

strange but ok congrats...

2010BMW135i · 10-16-2012, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ragingpanda

Any plans for some dragstrip runs?

Yeah, within the next month or so. Although winter is coming quick. Once I log some times i'll post them.

Basheezy, the octane is the best part. I'm on a 50/50 mix - 93/E85. Half the tank is full of cheap flex fuel, gota love it. MA is littered with Ethanol stations. Tuned for about 16psi.

Ænema · 10-16-2012, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by RimasRS

Dyno w/o wheels and you are saying it's WHP

strange but ok congrats...

Dynapacks bolt to the hubs. Dynapacks usually read low(this one does not) but they are about the most useful dynos in the world to tune with.

IGoFast1589 · 10-16-2012, 11:16 AM

125whp/150wtq gain? Haha! That's funny...

geared · 10-16-2012, 03:01 PM

actually those dynos usually read hi.....

Freon · 10-16-2012, 03:42 PM

415whp is awfully high for just a tune and intake... In the Subaru world Dynapacks were also know for reading about as high as Dynojets, so I guess I'm not terribly surprised.

Dosturbos · 10-16-2012, 03:56 PM

Did you go see Bren? He just gave me an e85-93 octane map. Shit is crazy, and useless on the street, no traction even with the LSD. Congrats,btw. An intercooler, Chargepipe, and dp's will get you more juice too!

John Dempsey · 10-16-2012, 04:02 PM

It is clear after looking at the other guy that got tuned at bren motorsports that his dyno reads RIDICULOUSLY high. There is absolutely NO chance your car is making 415 without dp or fmic.

Hellkite · 10-16-2012, 04:17 PM

What are you using for tuning your fuel? Jb4,Cobb ?

WPG D33Z · 10-16-2012, 04:20 PM

This is tuned for an e85 mix which makes a big difference in power compared to a 93 octane tune.

SunnyD · 10-16-2012, 05:14 PM

Wow I just installed my JB4 + DCI and got 339whp/363wtq. Those numbers are nuts!

2010BMW135i · 10-16-2012, 05:19 PM

your doubt and skepticism are expected, this tune is cutting edge and is turning out numbers that many aren't comfortable believing. I'm not the first to have had this tune, post about it, and gotten lash back. The real proof is on the road - if you're in the New England area let me know and we'll meet up and I'll prove you just how fast this car is with nothing more than an intake and an E85 tune. Cobb port, BrenTuning.

keep the doubt and lash back coming boys, you've got all you're going to get for me on this one. pm for a meetup.

1speedbike · 10-16-2012, 05:31 PM

I believe you can get those numbers on an optimistic dyno with just a tune, intake, and E85. I think a lot of people are forgetting the E85 part, especially if the tune is specifically designed for it. What I'm not sure of (and I'm not trying to knock you at all) is if those numbers are safely sustainable. There's no extra cooling going on at all, no meth or upgraded FMIC. In the long term, it'll always run pretty hot if you're consistently making those numbers and you'll mess up a turbo. At least, that's the worst case scenario. Good job on the tune, and great numbers! Stay safe, brosef.

John Dempsey · 10-16-2012, 05:38 PM

Those are the numbers i am getting on e85 full bolt ons. So you are saying that your car dynoed 290 stock if i do the math, that also is very unlikey. Im not saying that your car is more modded, that dyno just reads high no question

NihonX · 10-16-2012, 05:45 PM

I dynoed just last Friday on a Dynojet and got 420rwhp/480rwtq. I did three runs and averaged about the same. I was boosting to about 18.5psi.

I had 50/50-E85/91.
60/40 Meth/Water.

My mods are in my signature.

Hellkite · 10-16-2012, 06:24 PM

The website is claiming 80hp and 70 lbs at the flywheel on 91 octane.
The numbers are so high maybe with a little explanation on what is different about the tune that make s so much hp will help people believe the gains.

Dynos can be fooled by mearly moving the intake air temp sensor near the hot side of the engine bay.
Would you have the atmospheric conditions the car was tested under?

Is the dyno set on sae correction?
I would like to see the car tested a dyno dynamics dyno.
I'm offering a free dyno run if you are willing to come NYC.

ragingpanda · 10-16-2012, 06:43 PM

You can easily prove all your doubters wrong if you take your car to the dragstrip and see what it runs. If you are really making over 400rwhp, you should have no problem whatsoever TRAPPING over 115mph at the end of the 1/4 mile.

10-15-2012, 10:20 PM	#1
2010BMW135i Private First Class Drives: 2010 BMW 135i Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 108 iTrader: (0)	+125whp/148wtq from a tune/intake Featured on BIMMERPOST.com Bought my 2010 135i bone stock. Installed a BMS Dual Cone Intake and had it tuned at Bren Tuning in MA. Now I’m putting out 415whp/440wtq. That’s a gain of 125whp / 148wtq over stock baseline, you can’t spend better money than that. (HD vid' below)
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10-15-2012, 10:34 PM	#2
MGallop Captain Drives: 12' 135i Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: San Jose, Ca Posts: 796 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2012 BMW 135i [0.00]	nice!! now grab yourself a DP and FMIC and call it a day!! __________________ Matthew Gallop: '12 N55 Mods: JB4 Flex ISO \| iCarbon DP \| VRSF 5" FMIC \| BMS Intake \| ER Charge Pipe \| Race Axleback \| ST Coils \| Alufelgen CS7's \| iCarbon 3 fin Diffuser \| CarbonFiber Spoiler \| BMS AE's \| 30% tint \| red+blk roundels \| Cyba Scoops \| H-Style front Lip \| WeissLicht LED Smoked Sidemarkers \| Matte Grills \| Coded \|

10-16-2012, 03:42 PM	#11
Freon First Lieutenant Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 393 iTrader: (2)	415whp is awfully high for just a tune and intake... In the Subaru world Dynapacks were also know for reading about as high as Dynojets, so I guess I'm not terribly surprised. __________________ 2009 BMW 135i, 6 MT, M Sport, DIY DCI, Cobb AP, Apex 18x8.5+9.5, 235/265 Starspecs

10-16-2012, 05:14 PM	#16
SunnyD Lieutenant Drives: 09 135 6MT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Playa Vista, CA Posts: 422 iTrader: (0)	Wow I just installed my JB4 + DCI and got 339whp/363wtq. Those numbers are nuts! __________________ 2009 AW/Blk 135 6MT - [JB4] [BMS DCI] 339whp 363wtq 2006 ///M5 - Gone 2007 ///M Coupe - Gone

10-16-2012, 05:19 PM	#17
2010BMW135i Private First Class Drives: 2010 BMW 135i Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 108 iTrader: (0)	your doubt and skepticism are expected, this tune is cutting edge and is turning out numbers that many aren't comfortable believing. I'm not the first to have had this tune, post about it, and gotten lash back. The real proof is on the road - if you're in the New England area let me know and we'll meet up and I'll prove you just how fast this car is with nothing more than an intake and an E85 tune. Cobb port, BrenTuning. keep the doubt and lash back coming boys, you've got all you're going to get for me on this one. pm for a meetup. Last edited by 2010BMW135i; 10-16-2012 at 06:09 PM. Reason: detail

10-16-2012, 12:20 AM	#4
ragingpanda Banned Drives: 135i Join Date: May 2012 Location: Florida Posts: 486 iTrader: (0)	Any plans for some dragstrip runs?

10-16-2012, 02:10 AM	#5
Basheezy Bashar Drives: 2008 BMW 135i Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 641 iTrader: (1)	Wow! Impressive numbers. How much boost is it tuned for? and 91 octane?

10-16-2012, 02:13 AM	#6
RimasRS Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 135i MT 2009 AW Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Europe Posts: 1,668 iTrader: (0)	Dyno w/o wheels and you are saying it's WHP strange but ok congrats...

10-16-2012, 11:16 AM	#9
IGoFast1589 Captain Drives: 08 135i Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: NY Posts: 623 iTrader: (0)	125whp/150wtq gain? Haha! That's funny...

10-16-2012, 03:01 PM	#10
geared Lieutenant Drives: No car Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: jupiter, fl Posts: 404 iTrader: (1)	actually those dynos usually read hi.....

10-16-2012, 03:56 PM	#12
Dosturbos Private First Class Drives: 08' Very black 135i Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Medford, MA Posts: 120 iTrader: (1)	Did you go see Bren? He just gave me an e85-93 octane map. Shit is crazy, and useless on the street, no traction even with the LSD. Congrats,btw. An intercooler, Chargepipe, and dp's will get you more juice too!

10-16-2012, 04:02 PM	#13
John Dempsey Banned Drives: White 135i M-Sport Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Encinitas Posts: 591 iTrader: (0)	It is clear after looking at the other guy that got tuned at bren motorsports that his dyno reads RIDICULOUSLY high. There is absolutely NO chance your car is making 415 without dp or fmic.

10-16-2012, 04:17 PM	#14
Hellkite Private Drives: 2009 135i white on black m Join Date: May 2012 Location: S.I.N.Y. Posts: 78 iTrader: (0)	What are you using for tuning your fuel? Jb4,Cobb ?

10-16-2012, 04:20 PM	#15
WPG D33Z Second Lieutenant Drives: 2008 135i vert Cobb Stage2 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 252 iTrader: (0)	This is tuned for an e85 mix which makes a big difference in power compared to a 93 octane tune.

10-16-2012, 05:31 PM	#18
1speedbike Colonel Drives: 2008 BMW 135i Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NJ, NYC, Baltimore Posts: 2,912 iTrader: (14)	I believe you can get those numbers on an optimistic dyno with just a tune, intake, and E85. I think a lot of people are forgetting the E85 part, especially if the tune is specifically designed for it. What I'm not sure of (and I'm not trying to knock you at all) is if those numbers are safely sustainable. There's no extra cooling going on at all, no meth or upgraded FMIC. In the long term, it'll always run pretty hot if you're consistently making those numbers and you'll mess up a turbo. At least, that's the worst case scenario. Good job on the tune, and great numbers! Stay safe, brosef. __________________ Year 1 of the 1

10-16-2012, 05:38 PM	#19
John Dempsey Banned Drives: White 135i M-Sport Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Encinitas Posts: 591 iTrader: (0)	Those are the numbers i am getting on e85 full bolt ons. So you are saying that your car dynoed 290 stock if i do the math, that also is very unlikey. Im not saying that your car is more modded, that dyno just reads high no question

10-16-2012, 05:45 PM	#20
NihonX The Game Drives: 2011 VO 1M Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: 661/415 Posts: 726 iTrader: (6)	I dynoed just last Friday on a Dynojet and got 420rwhp/480rwtq. I did three runs and averaged about the same. I was boosting to about 18.5psi. I had 50/50-E85/91. 60/40 Meth/Water. My mods are in my signature. __________________ 2011 VO 1M: JB4(G5) -- HPF FMIC -- Gen. DCI -- Stett CP/HKS BOV -- BMS WW Meth -- CDV Delete

10-16-2012, 06:24 PM	#21
Hellkite Private Drives: 2009 135i white on black m Join Date: May 2012 Location: S.I.N.Y. Posts: 78 iTrader: (0)	The website is claiming 80hp and 70 lbs at the flywheel on 91 octane. The numbers are so high maybe with a little explanation on what is different about the tune that make s so much hp will help people believe the gains. Dynos can be fooled by mearly moving the intake air temp sensor near the hot side of the engine bay. Would you have the atmospheric conditions the car was tested under? Is the dyno set on sae correction? I would like to see the car tested a dyno dynamics dyno. I'm offering a free dyno run if you are willing to come NYC.

10-16-2012, 06:43 PM	#22
ragingpanda Banned Drives: 135i Join Date: May 2012 Location: Florida Posts: 486 iTrader: (0)	You can easily prove all your doubters wrong if you take your car to the dragstrip and see what it runs. If you are really making over 400rwhp, you should have no problem whatsoever TRAPPING over 115mph at the end of the 1/4 mile.

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