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JHZR2 · 02-26-2013, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dackelone

I was at my dealer today picking up some brake rotors for my e39... I asked them how long the electric water pumps last. I told them a friend of mine with an early ('08 or '09) 335i just had his water pump die at 90K miles. And they said... of course... at anything over 60K miles and your on borrowed time. So.... I think 60K or 70K is gonna be when I change mine.

Granted it is more pricey than a regular belt driven unit, but isnt 60-70k historically (I know, I too have had ones that have gone much longer) a replacement interval for pumps and thermostats?

At my rate, 60k will be a LONG time... Hope they still make 'em by then!!

sharkatron · 02-27-2013, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dackelone

+1. I believe it to be relatively an easy replacement job. I have not really seen a DETAILED DIY. Just that one DIY with a few pics here and there. I would really like to see someone do a step by step DIY.

Btw... you can buy a new BMW (dealer)pump & thermostat from one of our forum sponsors for under $500 for both! That is a much better price than $1,200 that some have paid stranded at a dealer in Timbuktu.

I am almost at the right miles to start thinking about doing a waterpump replacement as well. Humm....

Dack

+1

I haven't seen any DIY either... Not having any problems yet, but would like to know how it's done, and IF I can do it.

Dackelone · 02-27-2013, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sharkatron

+1

I haven't seen any DIY either... Not having any problems yet, but would like to know how it's done, and IF I can do it.

Here are two good DIY's... (on the e90post)...

DIY – Water Pump & Thermostadt Replacement (2007, 335i w/Automatic Transmision)
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=784416

Pictures: Electric water pump + thermostat replace
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=347412

Dackelone · 02-27-2013, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JHZR2

Granted it is more pricey than a regular belt driven unit, but isnt 60-70k historically (I know, I too have had ones that have gone much longer) a replacement interval for pumps and thermostats?

At my rate, 60k will be a LONG time... Hope they still make 'em by then!!

Yup, 60K is about the miles on older BMW's that you should consider replacing the water pump and thermostat.

And usually at around 90K the radiator and cooling hoses and coolant. Anti-Freeze (coolant) should be replaced every five years bc as it ages it gets more acidic. The PH level goes up(& up) and it eats the cooling system from the inside out as time goes by. Also one should use the proper BMW coolant as its different from say Prestone or what ever your local store sells.

takrdown · 02-27-2013, 11:18 AM

I'm officially freaked out and I'm going to be ordering both in the late Spring. I might as well give adjusting my front wastegate a shot while I'm in there. My mileage is at 113K.

Dack....if the PH is going up...wouldn't it be getting more basic not acidic

Dackelone · 02-27-2013, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by takrdown

I'm officially freaked out and I'm going to be ordering both in the late Spring. I might as well give adjusting my front wastegate a shot while I'm in there. My mileage is at 113K.

113K miles ? Yea... I would order a pump and thermostat ASAP.

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Originally Posted by takrdown

Dack....if the PH is going up...wouldn't it be getting more basic not acidic

Yea... your right. I did not mean that "up" figuratively.

But the coolant does get more acidic was time goes on. Also the coolant loses its ability to stop corrosion.

sharkatron · 02-27-2013, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dackelone

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkatron

+1

I haven't seen any DIY either... Not having any problems yet, but would like to know how it's done, and IF I can do it.

Here are two good DIY's... (on the e90post)...

DIY Water Pump & Thermostadt Replacement (2007, 335i w/Automatic Transmision)
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=784416

Pictures: Electric water pump + thermostat replace
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=347412

Thanks Dack!

spellbmw · 03-11-2013, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dackelone

I should probably make a post and say my waterpump is still the original one.

I have a 2010 MY, 135i with 56K miles. N54 engine.

+1

InlineSix · 03-13-2013, 12:35 PM

Water pump leaking, and oil filter housing leaking oil as well... Warranty just expired Jan :-/

46K Miles - 2008

Lucky1 · 03-14-2013, 04:31 PM

I'm still covered under the CPO warranty so I think I will take my chances and wait to see if my pump fails on me before CPO ends.

rking117 · 03-14-2013, 08:21 PM

I dont think this covers enough models that have the same engines / water pumps. I had an E85 Z4 that lost it mind when the water pump failed. I had to have it towed not doubt to the dealer to have it replaced. Same engine water pump.

Year 06
Model Z4 3.0i roadster
N52
around 65K = fail

kits135i · 03-26-2013, 01:50 PM

19k on the nose and it failed for me...

mdewyer · 03-28-2013, 04:42 PM

I have an 09 135i that just hit 50k miles and I'm still on the original pump. But, about 1.5k miles ago the coolant light came on and that got me worried. I filled it back up that same day and the level is still good to date, but I'm wondering if that was a sign of issues to come, or if it was just low for some reason. I assume a dealership won't replace it just because it 'might' fail, before my warranty runs out, huh?

IDBMW · 03-30-2013, 10:06 AM

I wish I could change my vote. My water pump died a couple of weeks after I posted all was well!

Model Year/Production date__2008 / May 2008_____Miles__52K______Warranty/Good Will ? Extended warrranty______Engine Code__ N54

WSUone · 04-03-2013, 05:06 PM

MY 2008, built 03 2008 51700 Miles. N54, cost 1238 no warranty.

This turned out to be an interesting ordeal.
1. Water Pump Fails
2. Replaced by Wichita BMW
3. Driving home the Oil Temperature gage goes to 250 after 5 minuts of driving and the oil level indicator says inactive. The Oil Temperature gage dropped down to 200 in about 2 seconds as I was watching it, and then the Oil level gage showed the right amount of oil. No indication of anything wrong.
4. Got home parked the car came back out after an hour and had coolant all over the garage floor.

5. Tow truck came the next morning and the battery was dead. Had to push the car out of the garage.

6. BMW replaced the water pump the next day and said that apparently the first water pump replacement shorted internally as I was driving down the road causing the bizzare gauge malfunctions and drained the battery overnight.
7. Alls well that ends well, but just be aware that if the pump dies it can cause some strange things to happen.

These cars will cause you to fret, and I was cursing it for a while but in the end they are too much fun to give up.

Dackelone · 04-05-2013, 04:23 PM

26 waterpump failures out of 192. Not looking good. This just goes to show us that the waterpumps need to be replaced.

Angerman · 04-05-2013, 04:40 PM

I'm almost at 40k....might just replace it soon before it happens

Maranello455 · 04-05-2013, 06:55 PM

Also need to change my vote. The WP in my 2009 135i failed. Water Pump Kit replaced by dealer under warranty at 14K miles.

bozola · 04-05-2013, 07:12 PM

I wonder if there is a statistical difference between the 128 and the 135's

bluesunit · 04-12-2013, 12:51 PM

No lie, I answered this poll two weeks ago and my water pump grenaded.

53,000 miles

Covered under extended warranty. Since my warranty expired, I've had seat airbag issues $$$ and the water pump go out . . . Smart purchase decision!

ChristianReyess · 04-12-2013, 01:01 PM

Model Year/Production date 2008 Miles 50k Warranty/Good Will ? CPO warranty Engine Code N54.

Happened 2012 / oct

RnmEvo9 · 04-14-2013, 05:49 PM

My waterpump went at around 62500 miles on my 2008 135i. It was covered under CPO warranty.

View Poll Results: I own a...
2008 model and the waterpump failed.	28	10.94%
2008 model and the waterpump is ok.	75	29.30%
2009 model and the waterpump failed.	7	2.73%
2009 model and the waterpump is ok.	59	23.05%
2010 model and the waterpump failed.	1	0.39%
2010 model and the waterpump is ok.	20	7.81%
2011 model and the waterpump failed.	4	1.56%
2011 model and the waterpump is ok.	39	15.23%
2012 model and the waterpump failed.	0	0%
2012 model and the waterpump is ok.	18	7.03%
2013 model and the waterpump failed.	0	0%
2013 model and the waterpump is ok.	5	1.95%
Voters: 256. You may not vote on this poll

02-27-2013, 11:18 AM	#71
takrdown Other car was a submarine Drives: 2009 BMW 135 Coupe Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hartford, CT Posts: 215 iTrader: (0)	I'm officially freaked out and I'm going to be ordering both in the late Spring. I might as well give adjusting my front wastegate a shot while I'm in there. My mileage is at 113K. Dack....if the PH is going up...wouldn't it be getting more basic not acidic __________________ 135 Coupe: Sedona Red/Boston Black/Gray Poplar Premium Package, M Sport Package Heated Front Seats, Premium Hi-Fi System, iPod and USB Adapter, Satellite Radio, Smartphone Integration

03-13-2013, 12:35 PM	#75
InlineSix TwinTurbo Top Hat Drives: AW 135i Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Miami Florida Posts: 243 iTrader: (0)	Water pump leaking, and oil filter housing leaking oil as well... Warranty just expired Jan :-/ 46K Miles - 2008 __________________ AW 2008 135i - Auto, Prem, with Sat Radio BMW CCA # 417107

03-14-2013, 08:21 PM	#77
rking117 Lieutenant Drives: Z4 3.0i & 128i Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Central Florida Posts: 495 iTrader: (0)	I dont think this covers enough models that have the same engines / water pumps. I had an E85 Z4 that lost it mind when the water pump failed. I had to have it towed not doubt to the dealer to have it replaced. Same engine water pump. Year 06 Model Z4 3.0i roadster N52 around 65K = fail __________________ Enjoying an E89 Z4, E82 128i and Fiat Pop 500 / Missing my E85 Z4 (sold)

03-30-2013, 10:06 AM	#80
IDBMW Captain Drives: 135i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 748 iTrader: (0)	I wish I could change my vote. My water pump died a couple of weeks after I posted all was well! Model Year/Production date__2008 / May 2008_____Miles__52K______Warranty/Good Will ? Extended warrranty______Engine Code__ N54 __________________ 135i – SGM/Black Boston Leather/Aluminum Trim - 6SP MT - Sports Package - Premium Package - Cold Weather Package - Premium Hi-fi System - ipod/USB adaptor - Comfort Access System

03-14-2013, 04:31 PM	#76
Lucky1 Captain Drives: '08 128i Coupe SGM 6MT Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 762 iTrader: (0)	I'm still covered under the CPO warranty so I think I will take my chances and wait to see if my pump fails on me before CPO ends.

03-26-2013, 01:50 PM	#78
kits135i Private Drives: 09 135i Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: San Diego Posts: 61 iTrader: (0)	19k on the nose and it failed for me...

03-28-2013, 04:42 PM	#79
mdewyer Registered Drives: '09 135i Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: OBX Posts: 2 iTrader: (0)	I have an 09 135i that just hit 50k miles and I'm still on the original pump. But, about 1.5k miles ago the coolant light came on and that got me worried. I filled it back up that same day and the level is still good to date, but I'm wondering if that was a sign of issues to come, or if it was just low for some reason. I assume a dealership won't replace it just because it 'might' fail, before my warranty runs out, huh?

04-03-2013, 05:06 PM	#81
WSUone New Member Drives: 08 135 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Wichita Posts: 12 iTrader: (0)	MY 2008, built 03 2008 51700 Miles. N54, cost 1238 no warranty. This turned out to be an interesting ordeal. 1. Water Pump Fails 2. Replaced by Wichita BMW 3. Driving home the Oil Temperature gage goes to 250 after 5 minuts of driving and the oil level indicator says inactive. The Oil Temperature gage dropped down to 200 in about 2 seconds as I was watching it, and then the Oil level gage showed the right amount of oil. No indication of anything wrong. 4. Got home parked the car came back out after an hour and had coolant all over the garage floor. 5. Tow truck came the next morning and the battery was dead. Had to push the car out of the garage. 6. BMW replaced the water pump the next day and said that apparently the first water pump replacement shorted internally as I was driving down the road causing the bizzare gauge malfunctions and drained the battery overnight. 7. Alls well that ends well, but just be aware that if the pump dies it can cause some strange things to happen. These cars will cause you to fret, and I was cursing it for a while but in the end they are too much fun to give up.

04-05-2013, 04:23 PM	#82
Dackelone Moderator Drives: 135i Silber mit/Rot 6MT N54 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bayern, Germany Posts: 13,312 iTrader: (0)	26 waterpump failures out of 192. Not looking good. This just goes to show us that the waterpumps need to be replaced. __________________ Dackel's European Delivery Museum Guide 1addicts at Stelv1oPass 1addicts at Stelv1oPass 2.0 July 20th & 21th, 2013

04-05-2013, 04:40 PM	#83
Angerman Spoolin' and Droolin' Drives: 08 135i 6MT Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Maryland Posts: 909 iTrader: (0)	I'm almost at 40k....might just replace it soon before it happens __________________ Old\| 2005 s2000: KPRO, Invidia q300 v4, PLM header, BERK 70mm HFC, Vortech v2 (3.6" Reichard Pulley), FMIC, ID 725cc (397whp/243tq @9psi, Tuned at Innovative Motorworks. New\| 2008 135i: COBB Stage 2+, ER CP, TiAL Q, BMS OCC, BMS DCI, Active Autowerke 2.0 Sport FMIC, VRSF 3" DPs, CP-E Axleback, Robs' PCV. Coming Soon: AMS FMIC, welded 3" cold piping; Protuning Freaks Protune

04-05-2013, 06:55 PM	#84
Maranello455 Private First Class Drives: 09'M-3,99'M3,02'M-3,88'M6,74'T Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dorado.P.R. Posts: 178 iTrader: (0)	Also need to change my vote. The WP in my 2009 135i failed. Water Pump Kit replaced by dealer under warranty at 14K miles. __________________ 135i Coupe N54

04-05-2013, 07:12 PM	#85
bozola Unloved BMW Addict Drives: 1 08 1 28 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: King County WA Posts: 1,051 iTrader: (0) Garage List 1999 Z3 2.8 [5.00] 2008 128i [0.00] 1998 318ti [5.00]	I wonder if there is a statistical difference between the 128 and the 135's __________________ 2008 128 Montego Blue/Premium/Sport/Cold/Step/Paddles/iPod/Xenons/Rubber/Rear Fogs/Performance Exhaust/E92 Sway

04-12-2013, 12:51 PM	#86
bluesunit Private First Class Drives: D-Stock 135i Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: The South Posts: 184 iTrader: (2)	Spoke too soon . . . No lie, I answered this poll two weeks ago and my water pump grenaded. 53,000 miles Covered under extended warranty. Since my warranty expired, I've had seat airbag issues $$$ and the water pump go out . . . Smart purchase decision!

04-12-2013, 01:01 PM	#87
ChristianReyess Private First Class Drives: 135i Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: United States Posts: 147 iTrader: (1)	Model Year/Production date 2008 Miles 50k Warranty/Good Will ? CPO warranty Engine Code N54. Happened 2012 / oct

04-14-2013, 05:49 PM	#88
RnmEvo9 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2008 135i Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Pembroke Pines, FL Posts: 1,641 iTrader: (2)	My waterpump went at around 62500 miles on my 2008 135i. It was covered under CPO warranty.

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