BMW 1 Series Coupe Forum / 1 Series Convertible Forum (1M / tii / 135i / 128i / Coupe / Cabrio / Hatchback) (BMW E82 E88 128i 130i 135i)
 





 

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      03-18-2013, 09:25 AM   #1
Zombie1
Major
 
Drives: BMW 135i 2010
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Island long

Posts: 1,482
iTrader: (2)

The stiffest non-RFT

I'm looking to change my rims and put new tires on I was thinking Bridgestone RE-11 tire I want a real stiff tire to help keep the sporty feeling of the stock M sport suspension and tight turn in
__________________
Mods:Berkexhaust alpinaB3flash cobbAP Cobb FMIC Er charge pipe tialQ bov OCC VMR705s MichelinPSS M3 front sway bar M3 subframe bushings M3 front upper and lower control arms M3 guide rods M3 rear upper control arms Koni yellows/Swift spec R springs
Zombie1 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-18-2013, 12:38 PM   #2
i128
4308fjios!@
 
i128's Avatar
 
Drives: car
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Montreal

Posts: 237
iTrader: (0)

On OEM suspension set up, NO tire out there will give you the same sharp turn-in as the RFTs provided.

However your best bet hands down is the Michelin Pilot Super Sport.
i128 is online now   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
      03-18-2013, 12:45 PM   #3
Zombie1
Major
 
Drives: BMW 135i 2010
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Island long

Posts: 1,482
iTrader: (2)

Thanks man

Quote:
Originally Posted by i128 View Post
On OEM suspension set up, NO tire out there will give you the same sharp turn-in as the RFTs provided.

However your best bet hands down is the Michelin Pilot Super Sport.
I just hear the car feels so sloppy with non RFT on turn in, if I did coilovers/springs dampers will this help to minimize the change in turn in
__________________
Mods:Berkexhaust alpinaB3flash cobbAP Cobb FMIC Er charge pipe tialQ bov OCC VMR705s MichelinPSS M3 front sway bar M3 subframe bushings M3 front upper and lower control arms M3 guide rods M3 rear upper control arms Koni yellows/Swift spec R springs
Zombie1 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-18-2013, 12:47 PM   #4
RimasRS
Colonel
 
RimasRS's Avatar
 
Drives: 135i MT 2009 AW
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Europe

Posts: 2,376
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zombie1 View Post
I just hear the car feels so sloppy with non RFT on turn in, if I did coilovers/springs dampers will this help to minimize the change in turn in
Yes it will help... Remember M cars non RFT
RimasRS is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      03-18-2013, 12:58 PM   #5
bluephobic(1)
Inspiring the youth of tommorow...
 
Drives: 135i Rocketship :)
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Lamecaster, OH

Posts: 190
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2009 135i  [0.00]
Send a message via AIM to bluephobic(1) Send a message via Yahoo to bluephobic(1) Send a message via Skype™ to bluephobic(1)
Easy fix mate, upper and lower M3 front control arms as well as front sway bar and M3 rear subframe bushings , transformed the car
__________________
Yr1 135i Jet/Coral JB4/P3 ETS 7" intercooler KNN drop in filter and AFE scoops, GC camber plates, M3 front bits* apex ARC8's with PSS 245/275 M3 rear subframe bushings, other things, some pixie dust and a flux capacitor round out the package
bluephobic(1) is offline   Spain
0
Reply With Quote
      03-20-2013, 02:29 AM   #6
SlowSaloonM3
Major General
 
SlowSaloonM3's Avatar
 
Drives: m3 saloon in granny mode.
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: lost angeles

Posts: 5,916
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zombie1
Quote:
Originally Posted by i128 View Post
On OEM suspension set up, NO tire out there will give you the same sharp turn-in as the RFTs provided.

However your best bet hands down is the Michelin Pilot Super Sport.
I just hear the car feels so sloppy with non RFT on turn in, if I did coilovers/springs dampers will this help to minimize the change in turn in
Doesnt feel sloppy on turn ins at autox and track days and midnight canyon time attacks to me.
__________________

Monkey see monkey do...I drive a poseur modified sedan.
SlowSaloonM3 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      03-20-2013, 04:53 AM   #7
Dackelone
Moderator
 
Dackelone's Avatar
 
Drives: 135i Silber mit/Rot 6MT N54
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Bayern, Germany

Posts: 15,065
iTrader: (1)

When shopping for tires... get a tire that has an XL rated sidewall. When I bought my PS3's there were two versions.... I ordered the ones with the stiffer sidewalls that are XL rated to carry more weight. I think this helps. Still... the "turn in" response will be slightly less sharp with regular tires vs runflats. Basically I am talking about when you more the steering wheel an half of an inch... with runflats the car changes direction NOW! With regular tires, it feels less sharp/direct. BUT... that is the only downfall of installing regular tires. In every other way... regular tires just feel so much better in ride and grip. Your suspension will hop around less and the tires will feel like rubber tires and not like they are made from concrete bricks.


My new Michelin PS3s 225s & 255s
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...chelin+PS3%27s
Dackelone is offline   Germany
0
Reply With Quote
      03-20-2013, 05:31 AM   #8
GaryS
Colonel
 
Drives: 2009 135i 6MT
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Maryland

Posts: 2,089
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2009 135i  [3.25]
Based on reviews, RE-11, Dunlop Z2 or Yoko AD08. I have AD08s for track and Michelin PSS for street. I think PSS feels grippier at street temperature, but not as firm.
GaryS is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      03-20-2013, 06:07 AM   #9
John_01
Lieutenant Colonel
 
John_01's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 325i, E82 135i
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia

Posts: 1,914
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bluephobic(1) View Post
Easy fix mate, upper and lower M3 front control arms as well as front sway bar and M3 rear subframe bushings , transformed the car
^^ This is what you need to get good steering response. Especially the front control arms. It does two things, 1) Adds some negative camber, 2) Firmer bushings on the front control arms add tactile feel to the steering (The way it should be on a BMW). For these two reasons the M3 arms totally transform the handling of the car. Firmer shocks and front sway bar are also a good idea - So do that at the same time.
John_01 is offline   Australia
0
Reply With Quote
      03-20-2013, 06:21 AM   #10
Zombie1
Major
 
Drives: BMW 135i 2010
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Island long

Posts: 1,482
iTrader: (2)

Thanks gents
__________________
Mods:Berkexhaust alpinaB3flash cobbAP Cobb FMIC Er charge pipe tialQ bov OCC VMR705s MichelinPSS M3 front sway bar M3 subframe bushings M3 front upper and lower control arms M3 guide rods M3 rear upper control arms Koni yellows/Swift spec R springs
Zombie1 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-20-2013, 12:48 PM   #11
bluephobic(1)
Inspiring the youth of tommorow...
 
Drives: 135i Rocketship :)
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Lamecaster, OH

Posts: 190
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2009 135i  [0.00]
Send a message via AIM to bluephobic(1) Send a message via Yahoo to bluephobic(1) Send a message via Skype™ to bluephobic(1)
Quote:
Originally Posted by John_01 View Post
^^ This is what you need to get good steering response. Especially the front control arms. It does two things, 1) Adds some negative camber, 2) Firmer bushings on the front control arms add tactile feel to the steering (The way it should be on a BMW). For these two reasons the M3 arms totally transform the handling of the car. Firmer shocks and front sway bar are also a good idea - So do that at the same time.
Thanks for clarifying John, the only issue I have noticed after doing this is ....I CAN't drive a car with electric steering...it feels dead....has anyone else noticed this??....lol
__________________
Yr1 135i Jet/Coral JB4/P3 ETS 7" intercooler KNN drop in filter and AFE scoops, GC camber plates, M3 front bits* apex ARC8's with PSS 245/275 M3 rear subframe bushings, other things, some pixie dust and a flux capacitor round out the package
bluephobic(1) is offline   Spain
0
Reply With Quote
      03-20-2013, 04:57 PM   #12
John_01
Lieutenant Colonel
 
John_01's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 325i, E82 135i
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia

Posts: 1,914
iTrader: (0)

Interesting point. Although I have never seen an E82 coupe 135i with electric power steering. I thought its only the E82 125i and F20 M135 that have electric steering (Not the way it should be on a BMW). Maybe the European market gets different specs.
John_01 is offline   Australia
0
Reply With Quote
      03-20-2013, 05:55 PM   #13
bluephobic(1)
Inspiring the youth of tommorow...
 
Drives: 135i Rocketship :)
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Lamecaster, OH

Posts: 190
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2009 135i  [0.00]
Send a message via AIM to bluephobic(1) Send a message via Yahoo to bluephobic(1) Send a message via Skype™ to bluephobic(1)
Quote:
Originally Posted by John_01 View Post
Interesting point. Although I have never seen an E82 coupe 135i with electric power steering. I thought its only the E82 125i and F20 M135 that have electric steering (Not the way it should be on a BMW). Maybe the European market gets different specs.
lol, my friend i was simply commenting on how amazing our cars feel after the front and rear M3 bits, then whenever i have a rental car or anything with electric steering I hate it IE most new cars lol
__________________
Yr1 135i Jet/Coral JB4/P3 ETS 7" intercooler KNN drop in filter and AFE scoops, GC camber plates, M3 front bits* apex ARC8's with PSS 245/275 M3 rear subframe bushings, other things, some pixie dust and a flux capacitor round out the package
bluephobic(1) is offline   Spain
0
Reply With Quote
      03-20-2013, 06:00 PM   #14
Kgolf31
Colonel
 
Kgolf31's Avatar
 
Drives: 2007 Z4MC, 2012 128i
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Ohio

Posts: 2,560
iTrader: (3)

Turn-in cant be blamed all on the tires.

Camber and toe are your important factors. Pull camber out and make toe = 0 and you'll be able to touch the steering wheel and see the car dart
__________________
12 128i Coupe - Project STX:TCKline l APEX l Vorshlag l Dunlop l Hawk l BMW Performance
07 Z4M Coupe: 235/265 Hankook RS3, RE Diablo Exhaust, H&R 30mm Front Sway Bar, PFC06 Pads, Vorshlag Wheel Stud Conversion
Production # 1181
Option # 39/43
Kgolf31 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:32 PM.




1addicts
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST