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      04-29-2013, 11:15 AM   #1
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Porter Cable question

I know that the Porter-Cable 7424XP is recommended for detail work. However I have the PC 7346SP. Will this work or should I get something else?

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That will work just fine.
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Yep- no big deal. It's fine.
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OK, thanks for the quick replies. Now I need to go buy some pads!
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OK, thanks for the quick replies. Now I need to go buy some pads!
http://www.detailersdomain.com/5-Pac...nch_p_298.html

be sure to use the "bmw" discount code for 10% off
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OK, thanks for the quick replies. Now I need to go buy some pads!
What polish do you plan on using?

Pad purchase should be directly correlated to polish
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What polish do you plan on using?

Pad purchase should be directly correlated to polish
I'm open to suggestions. I have a 2004 4Runner that's been pretty neglected and looks terrible. The 2010 135i looks like it's had one too many trips to a car wash, but overall isn't that bad.
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I'm open to suggestions. I have a 2004 4Runner that's been pretty neglected and looks terrible. The 2010 135i looks like it's had one too many trips to a car wash, but overall isn't that bad.
I'm a really big fan of Meguiars M105/205 combo. IMO it is the 2-step combo to beat.

I like using the Lake County HydroTech Pads (Cyan and Tangerine respectively).

Google the Kevin Brown method, it is an amazing technique to use with these polishes and machine that produces awesome results.

Here are the polishes on my car (done by me):

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...07-E86-M-Coupe
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I agree with the M105/205 combo.

I suggest the 105 with the Meguiar's 7006 cutting pad. You can use a more aggressive pad with this polish, but I think this combo is safe for most beginners who want to get rid of moderate imperfections.
http://www.autogeek.net/mgw7006.html

... and the 205 with the 8006 polishing pad
http://www.autogeek.net/mgw8006.html

again- you can use a stronger pad (such as Lake County's), but IMO this is good for someone just getting into it.

The 105 polish is pretty aggressive and finishes down really quick. The 105 takes a little more work but you'll be very impressed with the results.
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+1 to the above post. Its the same combo i am using. And now that i am more experienced and that my m105/205 is running out i am switching to sonax profiline series and uber pads.

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+1 to the above post. Its the same combo i am using. And now that i am more experienced and that my m105/205 is running out i am switching to sonax profiline series and uber pads.

Have fun.
Why not Menzerna? Just wondering
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      04-29-2013, 04:18 PM   #12
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Why not Menzerna? Just wondering
The big difference between these two is the polish itself.

Menzerna uses DAT- (diminishing abrasive technology) where the abrasives themselves in the polish wear down from full size all the way down to disappearing as you work it.

As a result, when you polish, the actual cutting ability of the compound changes based on how long you've been working it with your DAP.

Meguiar's is SMAT- (super microabrasive tech) where the abrasives are already worn down. This gives you the same cutting power from start to finish.

I suggest the Meguiar's to anyone who's asking to get into polishing. It's predictable and rewarding.

Once you get past the beginner stage, you'll probably try a ton of different compounds and polishers. It's not that Menzerna is a bad polish- it great- it's just not what I would suggest for someone who's venturing into paint correction and wants results with the smallest chance of damaging the vehicle's finish.
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you could probably use a backing plate and some pads specific to what you need to do on the cars.

can you provide some photos of the imperfections you want to work on?
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The big difference between these two is the polish itself.

Menzerna uses DAT- (diminishing abrasive technology) where the abrasives themselves in the polish wear down from full size all the way down to disappearing as you work it.

As a result, when you polish, the actual cutting ability of the compound changes based on how long you've been working it with your DAP.

Meguiar's is SMAT- (super microabrasive tech) where the abrasives are already worn down. This gives you the same cutting power from start to finish.

I suggest the Meguiar's to anyone who's asking to get into polishing. It's predictable and rewarding.

Once you get past the beginner stage, you'll probably try a ton of different compounds and polishers. It's not that Menzerna is a bad polish- it great- it's just not what I would suggest for someone who's venturing into paint correction and wants results with the smallest chance of damaging the vehicle's finish.
I was asking with regards him switching from Meguiars to Sonax, and not Menzerna.

I have PG, SIP, 106FF and PO85RD and absolutely love them, but I always turn to M105/205 for most details, it finishes down much nicer and doesn't leave a dust storm behind.

Although I usually use PO85RD for jeweling everytime.


You can see in my OP I only recommended M105/205
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^ ah, gotcha. Got you mixed up with the OP. Sorry about that.
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Why not Menzerna? Just wondering
Couple reasons:

1. Menzerna is a great product no doubt. I was looking at FG400 and to finish it down with a PO85RD or PO106FA but after looking at their Profiline series their 3/6 polish apparently does what those finishing polishes do with more cut and a bit more gloss. I decided why not, let's go for it.

2. Both compounds and polishes apparently don't dust that much or if any at all. And they don't cake up the pad like M105 does. A big reason why I wanted either of these was that I was going to detail some MB's soon and their clear is ceramic, M105 I fear won't put up much a fight.

3. In the golden days of DTM, one of the 190E's was sponsored by Sonax. It was one of my favourite cars of all time and I love using it when I play Gran Turismo. In this case, sponsorship gave me that extra nudge.


As for the OP, I still feel that the Meg's twins combo would be best, easy to use and produces great results.
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I'm a really big fan of Meguiars M105/205 combo. IMO it is the 2-step combo to beat.
This. The M105/205 combo is killer.
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OK, I'll go with the M105/205 combo. So I would need a cutting pad to go with the 105, and a polishing pad to go with the 205? I'm looking at the DD website and they have yellow (cutting), orange (medium) and blue (final). Should I go for all 3 or just the yellow & blue? Edit: I didn't see green & black before. Clearly I'm confused as to which pads I should get.
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OK, I'll go with the M105/205 combo. So I would need a cutting pad to go with the 105, and a polishing pad to go with the 205? I'm looking at the DD website and they have yellow (cutting), orange (medium) and blue (final). Should I go for all 3 or just the yellow & blue? Edit: I didn't see green & black before. Clearly I'm confused as to which pads I should get.
Linked on this thread already. Check my reply above.

Also, the m105 may sort of "harden" or dry out on the pad when you're using it. Don't be afraid to mist it with a little water from a sprayer to moisten it up and get the rest off the pad.
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OK, I'll go with the M105/205 combo. So I would need a cutting pad to go with the 105, and a polishing pad to go with the 205? I'm looking at the DD website and they have yellow (cutting), orange (medium) and blue (final). Should I go for all 3 or just the yellow & blue? Edit: I didn't see green & black before. Clearly I'm confused as to which pads I should get.
if you guys are set on going with M105 I would strongly suggest M101 its faster and less dusting than the M105.

Meg's M101

I would consider using the Meg's MF Cutting Pad or the Uber Yellow Pads.
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I recommend sending an email to detailers domain or detailed image. Give them the type of car AND the exact paint. (colour...metallic or non-metallic). I got excellent responses from both and got myself everything I needed...pads, polish and sealant. It was nice to get a response from a professional that had worked on my specific paint and had a personal recommendation. The pad polish combo they sold me had been EXCELLENT! Really happy with the results.
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