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      10-30-2013, 10:21 AM   #23
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I'm just saying...this should be a fair warning to anyone who tracks their car.

It isn't a cheap hobby. Especially if you decide to upgrade tires, wheels, suspension, brakes...etc.

Over in the "offseason" I've already bought PFC 06 full race pads, need to buy new rotors, and new tires. That alone is costing over $2,200. And this is just to be able to run on the track safely.

When you look into modifying your car, this cost increases in general wear and tear. Then you need to start rebuilding your shocks...bushings get worn out....etc

Truth hurts sometimes.
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..and you could not interpret mine ... trying to use what I have and minimize costs ...

...must be lost in translation. French is my mother tongue ...
We don't have a problem interpeting anything, it's just you don't seem to understand the principle of compromise. The thread regarding your track pads is a prime example. You wanted a dual duty pad even though one does not exist. Sure enough you buy the pad anyway, and complain that it led to decreased performance and pad deposit on your rotor causing excessive vibrations. You realized next time around you should buy a dedicated track pad - money down the drain from the Cool Carbons.

The question of wheels/tires is no different but if anything the mistake will be more costly. You posted "please provide thoughts on X" and that's exactly what you got from Kgolf and me. But if you accept the fact you are going to run a compromised setup, then say that from the get go. Create a thread "I know this sucks but is this setup do-able?" and we'll simply say Yes or No because it seems like that's what you're ultimately trying to get at. Asking questions if fine, that's what the community is here for. But making up your mind and but posting for devil's advocate sake is just wasting everyone's time (yours included). Your threads are all scream confirmation bias.

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I'm just saying...this should be a fair warning to anyone who tracks their car.

It isn't a cheap hobby. Especially if you decide to upgrade tires, wheels, suspension, brakes...etc.

Over in the "offseason" I've already bought PFC 06 full race pads, need to buy new rotors, and new tires. That alone is costing over $2,200. And this is just to be able to run on the track safely.

When you look into modifying your car, this cost increases in general wear and tear. Then you need to start rebuilding your shocks...bushings get worn out....etc

Truth hurts sometimes.
Agreed this hobby is not cheap and to think otherwise is naive. The question is not how to make the sport affordable, rather how to eliminate unnecessary costs and you do that by learning from others. And if you're not willing to spend the next marginal dollar, then you simply need to learn to use your existing hardware, ie staggered wheels in this case. But if you want to run square, a 17x7 square setup will be no better (and may be even worse than) your current setup. That's what Kgolf and I are trying to explain to you... if you insist on running square (presumably because you want the benefit of square), then you need to go wider. It's a simple matter of fact.

But if you don't want to spend the money because you want to keep costs down like you've reiterated many times, then the answer is to keep your current staggered setup.
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