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      01-22-2014, 07:01 PM   #1
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APEX Wheel Accessory Group Buy

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Hey guys,

Been speaking to the guys over at APEX in the states. Wanted to organize a bit of a group buy for wheel accessories. Some of the stuff available include:
- Stud conversions (various lengths)
- Lug nut replacements (also various lengths)
- Wheel spacers
- Replacement lock nuts

APEX never discount wheel accessories, however, because I asked nicely, they are willing to offer us a small discount of 5% (nothing massive but still something) if we can get 10 or more sets of wheel accessories happening. We'll obviously save on the shipping costs as well. I'll have all the parts sent to me and I'll distribute them out separately once I receive them.

As the prices are in USD, I think the best method of payment to me would be in USD to my PayPal account. However, lets organize the numbers first, then we can process the moula.

For a list of available accessories, please see the link below:
http://www.apexraceparts.com/Wheel-A...ries_c_40.html

01 - PeteA - 75mm BMW Stud Conversion 5 Lug Kit (Black) + optional install kit
02 - froop - 75mm BMW Stud Conversion 5 Lug Kit (Black) + optional install kit
03 - Giveway74 - 75mm BMW Stud Conversion 5 Lug Kit (Black) + optional install kit
04 - KD135 - 75mm BMW Stud Conversion 5 Lug Kit (Black) + optional install kit
05 - JB4135 - 75mm BMW Stud Conversion 5 Lug Kit (Black) + optional install kit
06 - Curare86 - 20 x 75mm Studs only (black) with m12x1.5 pitch
07 - Steve500 - 75mm BMW Stud Conversion 5 Lug Kit (Black) + optional install kit
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Is be up for the same 75mm stud kit. It comes with lug nuts too right?
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Yep.
http://www.apexraceparts.com/75mm-BM...-Kit_p_94.html
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Is be up for the same 75mm stud kit. It comes with lug nuts too right?

+1 for the 75mm stud kit
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Dammit I just bought a 75mm stud kit off them not too long ago! still waiting to be installed if I can find my locknut key!!!
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will also take a 75mm kit, with black lug nuts.
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I'm assuming you guys want black ones?
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I'm not fussed on the colour - Black is good
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TBH I don't mind the oem bolt setup, just lift the wheel on the hub then slide a bolt in and screw it in?
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so many stud kits ordered haha

wish i hadn't already bought mine, black studs would have been way better dammit

anyone wanna trade for my silver H&R set? haha
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Yeah I'll probably go with black. Black works on silver wheels but silver lugs don't really work on black wheels IMO.

But yeah Shane, studs are cool because if you change spacers and stuff you don't have to be changing lug bolts too. Just lazy mode really.
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Yeah I'll probably go with black. Black works on silver wheels but silver lugs don't really work on black wheels IMO.

But yeah Shane, studs are cool because if you change spacers and stuff you don't have to be changing lug bolts too. Just lazy mode really.
You'd be amazed at how much time is cut when taking off/changing wheels with studs.
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I hear a lot of lug bolts shearing off or breaking, especially with track use. Is this less of an issue with studs?
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Just be aware guys if you want the studs for spacers 15mm and above, you will need the 90mm kit.
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TBH I don't mind the oem bolt setup, just lift the wheel on the hub then slide a bolt in and screw it in?
Yeah but when you do 1-2 track events a month and changing all 4 wheels twice at an event it makes it so much easier.

Also at the end of a long trackday and the wheels and brakes are still piping hot, the less time you have to hang around the discs and callipers the better.

Also they are stronger for repeated on and off use so i'm told
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I am about to install mine and just wondering how long the people who have installed theirs let the loctite cure for? I watched some videos on youtube and they just screw the stud in and throw the wheel back on and torque it
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I hear a lot of lug bolts shearing off or breaking, especially with track use. Is this less of an issue with studs?
should be yeah

as far as i know, the advantage with the studs is the force is spread more evenly .. somehow... the nut pulling it back, rather than the bolt twisting in or something?

same way engine studs are stronger i guess (apart from clamping force)
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should be yeah

as far as i know, the advantage with the studs is the force is spread more evenly .. somehow... the nut pulling it back, rather than the bolt twisting in or something?

same way engine studs are stronger i guess (apart from clamping force)
Hmm don't think there would be any difference a nut or a bolt applied at 25nm is still torqued exactly the same?

The only thing i could think of was that the studs can make wheel changes easier by being able to rest the wheel on the studs and then you can start spinning the nuts on whereas with bolts the rim can only be rested on the hub and can potentially be more difficult as the wheel can rock off the hub when you're going to torque the bolt up?
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should be yeah

as far as i know, the advantage with the studs is the force is spread more evenly .. somehow... the nut pulling it back, rather than the bolt twisting in or something?

same way engine studs are stronger i guess (apart from clamping force)
Correct. It's the pulling force vs. the twisting forces which is the primary reason as to why studs are advantageous. As is lining up the hub ring to the collar, stud holes etc. etc.

Anyone else interested? If we cant hit 10, no discount :P

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Hmm don't think there would be any difference a nut or a bolt applied at 25nm is still torqued exactly the same?
The stud is only torques to ~40Nm into the hub then held in there with loctite so it doesn't spin when you want to take a nut off. The nut torques into the wheel at 120Nm which then exerts a pulling force onto the stud (not a twisting/toque force).
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Hmm don't think there would be any difference a nut or a bolt applied at 25nm is still torqued exactly the same?

The only thing i could think of was that the studs can make wheel changes easier by being able to rest the wheel on the studs and then you can start spinning the nuts on whereas with bolts the rim can only be rested on the hub and can potentially be more difficult as the wheel can rock off the hub when you're going to torque the bolt up?
and more to the above

http://www.loctiteproducts.com/tds/T_LKR_RED_tds.pdf

loctite red (at least what my studs came coated with) has a reasonable breakaway torque itself
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did you calculate a shipping price? couldn't get one off the website
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did you calculate a shipping price? couldn't get one off the website
I'm probably looking at about <$50 to ship all of them. I'll email the APEX guys directly and have them quote me the total price before asking for anything from you guys.

If anyone else is interested in a kit, please let me know. Would like to get ball rolling
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