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      10-12-2011, 03:15 PM   #127
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Originally Posted by BimmerEngineer View Post
Pretty much similar to your post from 12/29/2009 @ 2:02 am but the software BMW is using today is FAR more sofisticated than back in 2009, Plus BMW AG has made changes to the ECU and other areas that can't be discovered by tuners such as MSD80\81 to the newer 2010 and especially 2011 N55 cars...

That's where my friendship comes into question... I've kown him for 15 years outside the dealer realm... He did'nt tell me directly, just that there are some built in sensors on the turbo and a few handfuls of other parts that store info and when these are breached past OEM limitations they leave a mark of sorts, like breaking a lock, which raises flags... RED flags... I'll be chatting with him thursday... I will try another dealer..... He made sure my visit was not put in the system anyware or tht he cleared it out.
Well anomylies happen so...finding a RED flag (OEM limitations breached/exceeded) could be argued as a software fault...maybe? People don't complain when their car is running faster and turbo lag decreases.
I would think that they have to actually find the tune connected to your car to prove you've been tinkering with the OEM software. Kind of like murder...you can suspect all you want but until you find the actual weapon with fingerprints etc .... Maybe I'm WAY off but ... if I know for a fact that I've never tuned my car but the dealer say's yes I have and refuses to perform warranty work, then how do I defend my position? Doesn't seem right to be at their sole discretion based on software that can be easily manipulated even by their own mechanics. I wonder if the JB+ would have the same effect considering it operates differently.
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