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      09-27-2017, 05:31 PM   #16
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Drives: BMW 135i
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Originally Posted by WhatsADSM View Post
Yea doesn't surprise me at all. The 135i has "great bones" doesn't take much to make it outperform its M counterparts. Of course they can upgrade as well, but the big advantage here is simply how cheap it is to get into a 135i.

As always I love the videos and good driving

About the brakes. Consider brake ducts and possibly an F30 335i front swap. Cheap and very effective.
Under $15k for a used 135i plus around $10k for the mentioned upgrades…and you have a great dual-duty car that is still very comfortable for daily use and can drive for long periods on road trips with lots of cargo!

And if I had a 1M, I think I would keep it stock. I probably wouldn’t want to change its nature in any way! The handling seems perfect - both fast and loose. If I owned both cars, the 135i would become the faster car on the track for sure.

Thanks!

I have tried brake ducts, but it only allows me to run a little longer before the heavy brake fade settles in. It seems rotor size is too limited and too small to begin with. The brake ducts are also a pain to drive with on the street.


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Originally Posted by WhatsADSM View Post
Yea I think these two comments go hand in hand. There shouldn't be a reason that the 135i should be inherently any less fun to toss around than a 1M. Persistent understeer however will do that.

I echo the rear bar comment. For some reason that seems to be a mod few try around here. Another option is to re-adjust the sprint rates. Most of the kits are a bit to heavily sprung in the front versus rear. OP what are your current spring rates?

He is also a professional driver
It's always weird to me that people think its surprising that a 135i with a few mods can perform the same or better than a 1M. Would it surprise people if a modified naturally aspirated FWD civic does so too??
Current spring rates are 392lbs/in front and 672lbs/in rear.

There does seem to be a common misconception that a tune and/or wider fenders are necessary to keep up with the 1M at the track. I made the video to help dispel that.

If that said civic was still pretty comfortable to drive and you can fit 4 wheels & tires, 2 suitcases, 2 golf bags, a cooler, and a passenger…all inside the car? Yes, it would surprise me!

The 1er is special!

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