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      01-27-2020, 07:40 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by bbnks2 View Post
once you go to a bucket seat you generally cannot use a 3-point or 4-point harness (scroth quick being an exception). You'll need a proper 5-point harness. A track like NJMP will never let you on. They have state regulations arounf race cars and police will even ticket you in the paddock (not common but they have been known to roll through and write tickets). I had this issue last year. Car was too fast for the stock seats. They were fine when I was first starting out but as I got faster I was being tossed all over the place. Bucket seats keep you in place, weigh less, and they have the added benefit of giving you a more "direct" feeling to the car. I saw my autocross times get way better just by changing seats and installing a harness. I just had that much more control over the car (Or I feel I do anyway). It is a big step though. Instant devaluation of the car especially with the harness install going through the floor pan in multiple places. Back seat is useless now as well. Still plenty comfortable if you don't care about the above. Just a bit harder to get in/out. I kept the stock seatbelt in place for street driving.

I’m still not quite at your level of going REALLY fast but do feel that I could do better in the seat department. When you say harness, you meant a harness BAR (cage?) correct? I understand it is a big undertaking. I’m sure there are harnesses(cages) out there that are reversible (screw on to floor pan) if you do decide you’re done w it, although I’m sure that’s very rare or probably discontinued for our cars at this point. Being in HPDE only, what I’m thinking is probably overkill. I MAY try to be at the TT level w NASA but not much beyond that for now. Just want to be able to get more out of the experience that’s all.

I know bionicbelly did NASA TT5 and wanted to hear his thoughts as he also drove a 128.

I was thinking though, if a car came from factory w let’s say the BMW perf seats, which are basically Sportsters, if I had those on combined w a three-point, will that still be legal since these seats are offered from the manufacturer?
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