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Originally Posted by aesthetect
i didnt notice you had posted here either, did you hear anything relating that to the 1er or any other chassis in particular?
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Nope.
Based on the way BMW is going, DI is a safe bet, but I have no idea what they might have up their sleeves other than that. They build and test all the ///M engines there, so it's possible it's the next gen high-performance I6 for the 1'er/Z, or possibly an N54 replacement. Hell, it could even be an N52 replacement with DI!
As for an M version, I'd like to see a 3.4L I6 with DI and high compression developing 442hp at 9000, with a 9250 rpm redline/fuel cut. Though realistically, I think 380-405 would be more realistic. I don't think they want to put more power than the M3 in a Z or 1.
If they go the turbo route, and build a tii for the rumored facelift/new 3 in 2010, I'll take a regular 135/335 at 380/380 (suck on that mercedes, audi, and 'class leading' G37 :biggrin
, and a tii at 440/440, to pre-empt mercedes AMG version of their new "entry level" C coupe. I wouldn't be suprised to see an upgraded N54 with cylinder sleeves, forged internals, and some reinforcements to the block, along with better cooling.
At the same time they'll raise the HP of the TTV8 to 450/450, thanks to some more "top end breathing" with a slightly bigger hotside, fee flowing exhaust, and a more accurate HP rating, now that it doesn't have M3 toes to step on.
So, my predictions for the facelift 1/new 3:
330i: 270/230 $34,000
335i (335 tii?): 380/380 $41,000
M3: TTV8 based on the TTV10 being developed for the "supercar" and next gen 5/6 rumored to be in the mid 600s. Figure 510-520 from the M3 $68k starting $80k optioned
123d: True entry level, stupid fuel economy, 200hp/1bagillionfootpoundsat1500-2700 $25,000 with cloth seats
130i: 270/230 $32,000
135i (135tii?): 380/380 $39,000
134 ///M Coupe: 3.4l I6 NA, revs very, very high. 442hp for specific output reccord among "production car". 290ft lbs? One can dream ($45,500)
OR
330 33k
335: 380/380 40k
335tii: 440/440, or 440/425 if they want to be cool 48k
M3: 516 70k+
123 25k
130 31k
135: 380/380 37k
135tii: 440/400 46k
No M car for yoooz.
After slow Z4 sales, they'll move it slightly downmarket for the higher end versions, leave the hairdresser versions too expensive for what you get. Who knows what they'll call it? Z4? Z2?
Z2
Z2 23d: $32,000
Z2 30i: $36,500
Z2 35i: $40,500
Z2 M/Tii: $50,000
There ya go, that's my strategy for the bottom of BMW's line