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      04-28-2013, 01:53 PM   #664
Stephan735i
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Drives: 3x 540i/6 E34 + 550iA E60 LCI
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I agree with SickFinga; The number should be taken from the production day and not the VIN. This because in some cases a lower VIN can be finishied 2 month after the one right after.

As an example I give you two BMW 540i/6 E34: BJ12571 made 1995-01-30 it's #623 out of 797 made and BJ12572 made 1994-12-01 is #551.

It's the same with last M5 E34 Touring which is BL01939 it's made 1995-08-28, BL01941 is made an month earlier 1995-07-28 and the highest VIN BL01943 is made 1995-07-27.

The first M5 E34 Touring BL01001 is made 1992-03-04 but the first VIN BL01000 is made 1992-03-05.

If you own the first made of a model you wont get pleased if it's not classed as #1.

So please change the order, otherwise it's no point to have a order.


Best Regards Stephan

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Originally Posted by SickFinga View Post
Yes you did, just added explanation for the code




In a lot of cases a higher VIN predates lower VIN by weeks, so a earlier month for a higher VIN happens more often than you think.



It's a normal pre-production car, built on 2010-09-23. I don't know where you got your data or what kind of access you got, but you can ran that VIN on any VIN decoder site or even at realoem to get year and production month.



VP75907 has options:
S991A PRE-SERIES MANAGEMENT
S9ACA Camouflaged pre-production vehicle

On top of that the car was never registered in North America.

All press cars are later sold to public. Pre-production cars are sometime sold to public.
http://www.bmwmregistry.com/detail.php?id=8911
http://www.bmwmregistry.com/detail.php?id=1841

According to your list, car VP75952 is a US car with production #14.
This is incorrect, VP75952 is a Canadian pre-production car that, to date, was never registered.
You also list VT47835 as the last US car, however VT47840 was also built in US-spec configuration in November 2011.

According to my data, there were 222 Canadian spec cars built. 3 were pre-production models and 6 were press cars. VP75907 was a pre-production press car.

761 cars were built in US configuration. 11 were pre-production and 6 for press.




I'm not attacking you, only trying to help. The only thing I can say for sure is that there is no right way. Cars that are actually numbered (M540i, Eurospec M3 for Canada) do not use any system. I believe BMW slaps those # randomly when a batch of cars is made. I used the same system to calculate production # as you, but after looking at over 500 different models I realized that is not the best system. I believe the actual date when the car is completed is its "birthday" and not the sequence when VIN was created. In some cases VIN are made, but cars do not actually get built.
However, like I said, BMW doesn't use any system to make a concrete case.



Yes actually. Do you have information regarding VP75902 and VP75904?
In your spreadsheet it says website use for 902 and autoshow for 904. Do you have photos of those cars?
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