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Originally Posted by Luca335
ICBC (local insurance) should have a record of the claim if there is one. In Vancouver the deductible is usually between 3 to 500. A repaint of the bumper (take off and reinstall) by a reputable body shop like No. 1 Collision here costs about $1200. I think the $700 is more like a repaint of the bumper to cover scratches. This can easily happened when someone nudged the bumper when parking.
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Yes, I have seen this especially near the bottom when you scrape a curb. They will sand the clearcoat, spot spray an area and re-apply the clearcoat on the whole thing. If the seller had pictures of the damage to show someone, that would be great. Chances are the body shop took some too. I would ask for those myself. It's cost of asking "collectible" prices.
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Originally Posted by IZSL07L
Exactly, the golden rule applies here, how would you feel if you find out after you bought a car that it has been repainted? Are you going to say well he didn't have it on carfax so that makes sense? No, you'd feel cheated, and how is it different when the table is turned? I don't understand what's there to debate about when it comes to this point. I never said the OP is in the wrong for making an offer that he felt is fair, what I said was I can see where the dealer is coming from.
If you don't already know, Vancouver is the most expensive place to live in North America, let me repeat that, Vancouver is the most expensive place to live in North America. If you don't see a Lambo, a Ferrari, or some sort of super car on your daily commute, you've been driving with your eyes closed. My point is this car will sell without a doubt, if it hasn't already, its likely because it's not a brand new 2017 model and people here wants the newest and greatest. Rest assure, someone will come and pick up a car that is basically the price of any bmw M class price, so I can understand why the dealer said no.
The whole point of this conversation is I don't agree with the idea that you should pay out of pocket even if the accident is not your fault to repair the car so the next guy doesn't know and end up paying you top dollar, I don't care how you debate it, that to me is ridiculous.
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Yes, I believe in the golden rule too. This forum is for sharing of information and knowledge about our cars. That is all I was trying to do. I agree that I would fully disclose anything but my intention wasn't to give you a club to bonk the other guys on the head either.
I will say one more thing because you do come off as defensive and frustrated, which Shroom pointed out. I get it! Selling a 1M is very difficult and frustrating. I have never had as much aggravation as when I sold mine. I had guys call me and say, why are you selling so cheap? I would say, BMW spilled some stuff on my paint and re-sprayed it. They would hang up. I would have guys call me and ask if it had NAV, even though I put NO NAV 1M. Then they would demand to know how anyone would order a BMW with no freakin NAV! I had a guy sit in the car and scratch the steering wheel leather with his clip on phone case. I had another guy make a deal, then when I agreed say his brother says I shouldn't pay more than MSRP for the car and back out. Oh, and don't get me started on the MSRP talk. Everyone wants to talk about the $47,035 MSRP on the 1M when you're asking more. By the way I got an email from the guy that backed out a year later because he still wanted a 1M and they were going for 5K more a year later then mine.
So I understand how you can get frustrated and I hope the other guys here can cut you a little slack.
So back to the important stuff. Do you have pictures of the damage? That would help. This is a good place to put them too. A lot of people looking for 1Ms come here.
PS. I felt San Diego was a little disrespected here....I know Vancouver is expensive but San Diego is no slouch on high cost-of-living and plenty of Lambos and McClarens here, though they usually leave them at the airport when they take their helicopters! : )