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Originally Posted by XutvJet
Some of today's automatics are really good (ZF 8AT, Lexus ISF/RCF/ISF auto, DCT, PDK), but many still suck based on most rentals I drive. They remind me why I hate torque converter-based automatics (i.e., slow to react, spongy TC feel, erratic shifting).
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ZF 8 speed automatics ARE torque converted automatics. They're terrible.