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      09-15-2016, 04:06 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster View Post
Any proper sports car driver should. The M2 is faster but it is simply less challenging to drive and it's also less visceral because the controls are so soft. Steering is not as good in the M2. The clutch is softer/lighter and the gearbox is also slicker and therefore less tactile feel even when shifting.

While the 1M and M2 are quite similar, one is a " sports car for dummies " ( in that everything is dumbed down and simpler - aka auto rev match or DCT ) and the other is a sports car for drivers ( not racers).

I was under the impression that he had an E90 M3 in signal green ... ? I wonder if he's let it go.
I have never driven an M2 or 1M but since you mentioned "challenging to drive", I want to ask you a question just out of curiosity. Almost all the 1M reviews that I read or the comments from 1M owners claimed that when you drive it at its limits, it's almost like it's trying to kill you. I also read similar reviews about M4 as well due to its difficulty of putting the power down. Maybe M4 reviews didn't say it's trying to kill you but I sure remember the word "challenging to drive". On the other hand, for M2, like you said, most of the reviews mentioned how easy it's to drive. So here's my question as a person who doesn't have much track experience: Why would you want a car to be challenging to drive especially on a track where you are racing against time or other cars? Wouldn't a car that is easier to drive be more desirable? I have nothing against these two cars, just trying to learn more about them

By the way, he had an F80 in signal green but I don't know if he still has it.
Love the question.

Would a qualified equestrian rider want to ride the " old mare" that's been put out to pasture that's a great teaching horse because it's " easy to ride " or would such a rider prefer a more challenging steed ?

I think we can agree that the old mare is great for teaching those new to the sport.

However it is a lot more rewarding to working with a horse that, while it may be a tad headstrong or difficult to control, does actually do what the rider wants.


If you are the type that plays video games and always uses the cheats before even trying, then to most enthusiasts that are already accomplished track drivers , that's what an M2 is.

Don't worry about learning the physics of driving because you just want to go fast without knowing How or why.

Don't worry about learning how to master the friction point of a clutch because you have auto rev match.

Don't worry about shifting and gearing - and the delicate balance between when to shift and when not to - instead just get the DCT to do it for you instead.

With the 1M- it's all the driver.

Nothing is shifting for you.
Nothing is rev-matching for you.
You can actually FEEL the roadway due to mechanical steering.

It's You driving , rather than the car doing all the work and you just steering.

If ones goal is fast lap times. Take the M2.

If ones goal is the joy of driving, then the car that requires the most input and control and *attention * from the driver , is the 1M.


I'm sure that Chris Harris could express this better than I.

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