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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

The M3 GTS has sold out it's allocation and the media will be driving this car in the next few weeks.

Shall we get laptimes of the M3 GTS on the Ring? 7:30 min anywhere?

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

The Triple-Turbo is BMW's response to a V8 Diesel but only being six cylinders.
It is being touted as the Performance Diesel and will be placed in upper level cars from the 5 upwards.
The first outing of this powerplant will be communicated next year at the IAA in Frankfurt. The badging of these cars is still undetermined but they will be like Diesel versions of the iS car in concept which means a slightly more sporty appearance and individual aero packet.
This engine embodes everything about the "Efficient Dynamics" philosophy such as Great performance and excellent efficiency.

You say they will get an individual aero packet. Let us take the example of the 5 Series F10. So we have Standard, shall have M-Pacakge, maybe as the X6 shown at Geneva a BMW Performance Package, the M5 body, and yet the "550ds" aero packet. Isn't it to much pricewise? Because I do not think the "550ds" will be a volume seller as the 530d? If not why no new bumper for the M3 E92/E93 to fit the LCI headlights?

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

You might want such a car and so might a few others but the majority want the performance and they want the luxury also. Unfortunately with this problem it does not justify the production of such cars to a market like North America. In the end of the day it comes down to the decision can a car like this be sold in such a market? Unfortunately the answer is no which is why BMW North America had to reject the M3 GTS because the dealer network did not think the car would find a consumer base.

As not many are interessted in a "stripped" M Car like the M1 CSL/GTS, M3 CSL/GTS, Z4 M CSL/GTS, and building such a car is to expensive, and many do not like the idea of having a "not special" M3 compared to a Porsche 911 GT3/GT3 RS, why not develop a special car for this purpose, sort of "BMW M CSL" and leave the other "M3 CSL" or eventual "M1 CSL" away?

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

The Z4 again was a low cost car to develop as the engine came from the E46 M3 and the car was originally designed as Coupe too but placed on hiatus.
Coupe was introduced to prop up the Z4 is some markets where the Roadster was not doing well than expected.
With the 1-M the basis engine for this car is where the major development has gine into this project as like the V8 from the X5M and X6M being the basis for the upcoming M5 , The 1-M powerplant will be the basis for the next M3 model.
When I say the basis they will be totally different in character and performance it will not be just one engine , one car The engine will be directed to accompany the car not be a simple transplant from one car to the next.

Is the Z4 Coupé E89 also already designed but placed on hiatus? Can't the Z4 M E89 get the S65 engine from the M3 E92? Why let the market to other 2-seater coupes as Nissan 370Z, Audi TT-RS, Porsche Cayman S and so?

The M5 F10 engine will be based on the X5/X6 M E70/E71 engine, but not the same. Does it mean redline at 7.500-8.000 rpm, similar to McLaren MP4-12C redline at 8.500 rpm (I know it is not the same kind of cars and not for the same purpose)?


By the way, thanks for the direct answers.