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      07-23-2007, 03:48 PM   #39
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Originally Posted by aesthetect View Post
well what we have heard (i believe it was from SCOTT's mouth/keyboard?) was that there will be an M1 and it will enter the market as they take the 135 out. therefore it doesnt have to "fit" between the 135 and the M3, it is going to be what an M3 would have been if it didnt have to compete against the RS4, IS-F etc.. and didnt have to be based on such a fat-ass chassis

peak output horsepower can be a bit above where the 135 is from a revamped, lighter 3.2 (which will save significant development costs, hopefully) enough to where they could chop off a good 400lbs (i know, probably not, but wouldnt that be nice?), put in a lsd, CF roof, make it stiff as a brick, imagine.. and even if you can catch up with that in the straightaways in your tuned 135, you wont be howling with laughter like the M1 fellow will be

that being said, i like turbos and the 135 would be perfect for me. i dont need 100% rawness. although really it would depend on throttle response and what kind of low rpm torque i could get out of the M, which i wouldnt expect to compare to the 135
The question is what engine will BMW use. Will BMW break its rules and use a turbo engine or design a brand new N/A engine with more hp than the old 333hp m3 engine. If it doesn't out perform the old I6 N/A there is really no point for a new engine.

As someone else have pointed out the current 1 series platform will end in 2011 and that gives this M1 a 3 year life cycle. If BMW offers the M1 I will jump on it right away but I don't see it introducing a new M1 in current 1 series. Maybe BMW will in the next generation.
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