[rs_philly]

Just checked the ring times for the cayman S and its 8:16, a little slower than the 8:12 for 1M, so I'm not surprised that the cayman R is only marginally better. I think it's an unfair comparison based on the number of seats and curb weight, stacked in the favor of the cayman, and still the cayman is only marginally faster. I think the appropriate comparison will be with a 1M vs 997 coupe - both four seaters and much closer in weight, even though the price difference is huge. And perhaps a procede 1M vs a 997 C2S!

To those comparing the 135 vs boxster/cayman, the 135 is a different car. I have test driven it and it does sit too high and rolls way too much (almost as much my 335xi which doesn't even have a sport suspension). I drove an E46 M3 convertible the same day I drove a 135 and the M3 was miles better in terms of handling and grip. And it was a heavy convertible! The 1M is supposed to be better then the E46M3 so it will be miles ahead of a 135 (one with stock suspension anyway) so I wouldn't prejudge an 1M based on how a stock 135 drives.