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09-02-2010, 09:32 PM | #1 |
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OK, it's time to start thinking about what Dinan will squeeze out of the 1M engine
If BMW uses slightly larger turbos for the 1M I'll bet Dinan can squeeze even more hp out of it (vs. the 135i). Would it be unreasonable to think they could get over 400hp with just software? The oem 1M intercooler should be better than the 135i unit.
Yea, it's very early for speculation but BMW will have to do something hardware-wise over the 135i engine.. so it seems reasonable. I don't want to hear the ecu will be beyond cracking. That's what they said about the GT-R.
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09-03-2010, 05:32 AM | #6 |
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Put Active Autowerkes name in the hat for what type of insane tune they will come up with...
As far as Dinan, I think they might can come up with a 400-400+ reliable tune, and they many even develop some internal mods as well, I was impressed with their stroker kit for the V10, like that should have been the engine that should have been in the M5/M6 all along. |
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09-03-2010, 07:19 AM | #7 |
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I think you will be disappointed again. Since the Z4 35is makes 340 with stock turbos, why would they use larger turbos, do they need an increase in lag ?
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Its not that Dinan is a better tuner than BMW its the fact Dinan is a "specialty" tuner. Not everyone who buys a BMW wants have a higher strung, more powerful, more expensive car. BMW caters to the masses, specialty tuners cater to a smaller percentage of enthusiasts. CAFE import numbers play its part also.
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I think that dinans 1M tuneshould be to give me a stroker S65 and M3 drivetrain and I'll put it my car
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09-03-2010, 08:39 AM | #10 |
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You're dreaming if you think there's a chance of BMW putting different turbos on the 1M. At this point I think we'd be lucky to anything over 340hp. But, the engine will not define this car, the handling will.
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As for the "most people cant drive the car they have" comment, Im curious to know what you drive? Dont think I've seen a post you've made about a car you own. Just see alot of talking about a car you may get at some point down the road sometime "if". Last edited by NYC6; 09-03-2010 at 06:56 PM.. |
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09-03-2010, 04:21 PM | #12 |
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Does anybody remember Dinan's "1M", it had 380 hp, suspension mods, I believe a LSD, and CSL style wheels, possibly even a brake upgrade. Would love to see the comparison of both
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As much as I hate to admit it, the new mustang was right with the M3 in nearly every performance category in recent magazine comparisons. The 1M is the "entry level" M car so I understand why they won't go too far with it. If they don't do something extra special for the 1M engine-wise it'll be a shame to have mustangs fly by.
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What you say, well maybe true, but it was said the same for the GT-R's engine, that no one could crackit and produce Gi-normous amounts of power, due to the fine tuned nature of the cars. Yet, Hennessey has 700+ hp GT-Rs running around, so does HKS, and other JDM tuners...same thing will happen for BMW. Unfortunately, there are some damn good ECu crackers out there that are employed by other tuners, and when you have a turbo engine, whose block and internals can take 100-300+ more hp, you are gonna get those people trying to extract that out of it. |
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^dinan runs a Daytona prototype in grand am powered by an E39 M5 V8 but next year it will be powered by the stroker S65 That they offer
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The E39's V8 is quite badass, I would like to get my hands on a E39 M5...It has a timeless shape, and the rims are quite nice. |
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If the turbos are slightly larger, I imagine 400rwhp with a tune on 93 would be cakewalk. If they're the size of the ASR turbos (15% larger?) then expect 450rwhp with basic boltons on 93, and north of 500 with race fuel.
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I wonder if the guys at HP Freaks will do anything with the 1M. HPF is already working on N54 upgrades which might work in the 1M (assuming some similarity between 1M N54 and the regular N54).
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