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      03-16-2017, 09:08 PM   #1
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Just wish these 335i would of been built to fit wider tires!!!

Man I love the wide meaty tires look!!! Just wish they would of built these cars to be able to run wider tires. Saw some guy with a 370z and he's running 285 fronts and insanely 345 WIDE tires in the rear!!! He was able to fit all that meat with just minor fender rolling and a little camber that's all. Stock for the 370z is 245 front and 275 rears and damn they left a whole lot of space to add more meat haha.

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I think 255/35/18 are already expensive enough
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I think they also put big tires on the McLaren P1.
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Widest I've seen personally is 305mm on rear axle with fender roll (no pulling) but it was rubbing a bit on bug bumps. They run anywhere from $200 to $400 for 1 tire. I think that's overshoot for a daily driver
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Doesn't wider tire relate to more power?!

Wider the tire = Higher the horsepower?

Just a thought

335xi 335i E92 can get 235/35/19 Front and 275/30/19 rears and looks perfect lowered on Coilovers with no rubbing unless you go super low
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Man I love the wide meaty tires look!!! Just wish they would of built these cars to be able to run wider tires. Saw some guy with a 370z and he's running 285 fronts and insanely 345 WIDE tires in the rear!!! He was able to fit all that meat with just minor fender rolling and a little camber that's all. Stock for the 370z is 245 front and 275 rears and damn they left a whole lot of space to add more meat haha.
Wow. Way to compare a 2 passenger sports car to a 335i. You must use that logic in your everyday life. How is that treating you?
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      03-17-2017, 11:27 AM   #9
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wide tires on a 300hp car? stupid.

tire grip must be proportional to engine output.

functionality over looks gentlemen.
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Wow. Way to compare a 2 passenger sports car to a 335i. You must use that logic in your everyday life. How is that treating you?
2 passenger 4 passengers 7 passengers don't matter
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wide tires on a 300hp car? stupid.

tire grip must be proportional to engine output.

functionality over looks gentlemen.
You have zero idea what you're talking about.
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Well.. I own a 330i sedan and I happen to have 275/40/18 rears and 245/40/18 fronts.. With my experience you could go MUCH MUCH wider rears without issues. Im stock height sport model and there is minor rubbing full lock in reverse only.. on front inside tire on plastic. Just barley.. I'm running stock BMW wheels and I have no idea what offset they are. But with a perfect offset I bet 255 fits up front and a 345 in the rear. If you roll the fenders.. add 20mm to that. 275-365.. I got my car cheap but Im not about to roll my fenders. Thats why I own an Integra. when you roll fenders you loose the lower dust cover seal. I live in Cali. Its dusty here.. If your car is a garage queen, then go for it. Slap on those dream tires.. honest there isnt much to gain over a 275 at our hp lvl.. Over 500hp sure but driving techniques and the right tire for the job you're asking it to do will greatly outweigh a few mm of rubber on pavment.. If racecar then unsprung weight is MORE important than tire size. So real wheels would be best upgrade possible. Then you can fit crazy tires anyways and everybody wins.
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Ill post pics of my clearance and setup when I get to a desktop so I can resize the images.. I just took some good ones and theres lots of room under there..
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Well.. I own a 330i sedan and I happen to have 275/40/18 rears and 245/40/18 fronts.. With my experience you could go MUCH MUCH wider rears without issues. Im stock height sport model and there is minor rubbing full lock in reverse only.. on front inside tire on plastic. Just barley.. I'm running stock BMW wheels and I have no idea what offset they are. But with a perfect offset I bet 255 fits up front and a 345 in the rear. If you roll the fenders.. add 20mm to that. 275-365.. I got my car cheap but Im not about to roll my fenders. Thats why I own an Integra. when you roll fenders you loose the lower dust cover seal. I live in Cali. Its dusty here.. If your car is a garage queen, then go for it. Slap on those dream tires.. honest there isnt much to gain over a 275 at our hp lvl.. Over 500hp sure but driving techniques and the right tire for the job you're asking it to do will greatly outweigh a few mm of rubber on pavment.. If racecar then unsprung weight is MORE important than tire size. So real wheels would be best upgrade possible. Then you can fit crazy tires anyways and everybody wins.
No way a 345 will fit in the rear
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No way a 345 will fit in the rear
275 fits like stock tire under there with room to spare. That's what? 10.9 inches already and a 345 is like 13.5 inches..

2.6 inches is all I need more than what I got now to fit a 345.. It might not fit but its so close already. I need to get my car on an alignment lift and see while its sitting the kind of clearance I have.

I took some pictures but I'm having trouble resizing on this laptop the Chinese dudes didn't leave me much room on the HHD and I haven't been able to get to my desktop to clone the ICOM setup on a 1TB SSD which will leave me plenty of room.. for now I struggle to prove my point.

Pics clearly show about 3.5 inches before the strut in the rear and about 1.5 inches to the outer fender lip. (working on the other pic might need a ruler to show it best)

I have a 2006 330i sedan Maybe its different for later years but I really doubt it would be that major that something couldn't be made to work..

As for front to back spacing of the rear tires or top clearance, I have TONS! I got at least the inside pic resized for now and I notice I have some crap hanging on the bottom there LOL great. :P

Give me a week or two and I'll find some wheels worthy of chopping up and I'll see if there isn't a happy offset for best clearance of fat tires in the rear. Until I know more I concede. There very well may be something important I'm missing.

Oh and that's a 275-40-18 Conti-Sport tire on there.. Ive herd they actually run large for their sizes but I'm new to them I usually run JDM tires or USDM if I can afford it but these were cheap and they said "GET THE RUN FLAT FFS." So I did.. Very happy with them, couldn't say a single thing negative at all.
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275 fits like stock tire under there with room to spare. That's what? 10.9 inches already and a 345 is like 13.5 inches..

2.6 inches is all I need more than what I got now to fit a 345.. It might not fit but its so close already. I need to get my car on an alignment lift and see while its sitting the kind of clearance I have.

I took some pictures but I'm having trouble resizing on this laptop the Chinese dudes didn't leave me much room on the HHD and I haven't been able to get to my desktop to clone the ICOM setup on a 1TB SSD which will leave me plenty of room.. for now I struggle to prove my point.

Pics clearly show about 3.5 inches before the strut in the rear and about 1.5 inches to the outer fender lip. (working on the other pic might need a ruler to show it best)

I have a 2006 330i sedan Maybe its different for later years but I really doubt it would be that major that something couldn't be made to work..

As for front to back spacing of the rear tires or top clearance, I have TONS! I got at least the inside pic resized for now and I notice I have some crap hanging on the bottom there LOL great. :P

Give me a week or two and I'll find some wheels worthy of chopping up and I'll see if there isn't a happy offset for best clearance of fat tires in the rear. Until I know more I concede. There very well may be something important I'm missing.

Oh and that's a 275-40-18 Conti-Sport tire on there.. Ive herd they actually run large for their sizes but I'm new to them I usually run JDM tires or USDM if I can afford it but these were cheap and they said "GET THE RUN FLAT FFS." So I did.. Very happy with them, couldn't say a single thing negative at all.
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275 fits like stock tire under there with room to spare. That's what? 10.9 inches already and a 345 is like 13.5 inches..

2.6 inches is all I need more than what I got now to fit a 345.. It might not fit but its so close already. I need to get my car on an alignment lift and see while its sitting the kind of clearance I have.

I took some pictures but I'm having trouble resizing on this laptop the Chinese dudes didn't leave me much room on the HHD and I haven't been able to get to my desktop to clone the ICOM setup on a 1TB SSD which will leave me plenty of room.. for now I struggle to prove my point.

Pics clearly show about 3.5 inches before the strut in the rear and about 1.5 inches to the outer fender lip. (working on the other pic might need a ruler to show it best)

I have a 2006 330i sedan Maybe its different for later years but I really doubt it would be that major that something couldn't be made to work..

As for front to back spacing of the rear tires or top clearance, I have TONS! I got at least the inside pic resized for now and I notice I have some crap hanging on the bottom there LOL great. :P

Give me a week or two and I'll find some wheels worthy of chopping up and I'll see if there isn't a happy offset for best clearance of fat tires in the rear. Until I know more I concede. There very well may be something important I'm missing.

Oh and that's a 275-40-18 Conti-Sport tire on there.. Ive herd they actually run large for their sizes but I'm new to them I usually run JDM tires or USDM if I can afford it but these were cheap and they said "GET THE RUN FLAT FFS." So I did.. Very happy with them, couldn't say a single thing negative at all.
I run a 265/30/19 on 19x10+25 all-around (on my 450hp 335i) and it feels like the perfect setup. Doesn't give that stretched look, and zero rubbing in the rear. Honestly don't think I could go any wider, without destroying the fenders.

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Your offset is farther out than mine o.0

front - 18x8, et 34
rear - 18x8.5, et 37

Thats my offset and I have room on the inside, you're running a 25!! and a 10 inch wheel.. That just testifies to how much room there was to my fender.. I bet your FLUSH lol.. I said I had an inch and a half and you Sir pushed literally 31mm or 1.22 inches farther out to the fender LOL.. I measured TO the metal for the 1 1/2 inch measurement.. Dude you have .28 inch left..

You Sir have what we know as "Perfect Fitment"

That all said, you even went 7mm farther in.. I really feel like the correct offset wheel will allow a monster size of a tire.. NOW that does NOT mean I support doing it or that I'm against it.. Everything has pro's n con's.. Gas millage will plummet for city driving and you might start breaking drive train components on hard launches rather than slip a lil tire.. So once we know for sure IF bigger fits without issue.. Still tread lightly and use common sense.
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Meat sure looks nice but gargantuan rear tires are really not necessary for most E9X owners. How many of these cars see a racetrack regularly? Of that fraction, how many of those drivers are pushing their car to the absolute limit, and realistically need the extra grip?

I think it would be a huge waste for BMW to sell non-M 3-series with the possibility of fitting 345's in the rear. The quarter panel would look like an airplane hangar around stock wheels.
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You have zero idea what you're talking about.
so what are you talking about then?

by wide tires, I meant anything more then 275. what is the point of having such wide tires? you cannot rotate and it will be nearly impossible to get some sort of drift. this is why I am saying functionality over looks.. wider tires are supposed to be matched to the power output you have, not installed purely for looks.
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Can't rotate any staggered setup so not sure what wide tires have to do with that. I run 295's in rear and even basic FBO, I can spin them with moderate throttle at launch. Rear end will still step out in corners if pushed. Not sure why not drifting is a positive though, it just means you have grip.

FWIW, to the other poster, I don't think 345s will fit without a lot of work. My fenders are pulled slightly and I have ~15mm from tire to the lip of the quarter panel. It rubs on big bumps. Can't remember the offset of my wheels as they were custom but on the inside the tire already contacts the coilover shock body some and it had to be flattened a little bit. I tried running 5mm spacers and it rubbed nonstop - not just over bumps but every time weight shifted to the rear so it would rub on acceleration.

Maybe if you cut the fender lips off, pulled them out and ran at stock height you could get a 315 in there. I just don't think a 345 is going to work without widebody.

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so what are you talking about then?

by wide tires, I meant anything more then 275. what is the point of having such wide tires? you cannot rotate and it will be nearly impossible to get some sort of drift. this is why I am saying functionality over looks.. wider tires are supposed to be matched to the power output you have, not installed purely for looks.
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Can't rotate any staggered setup so not sure what wide tires have to do with that. I run 295's in rear and even basic FBO, I can spin them with moderate throttle at launch. Rear end will still step out in corners if pushed. Not sure why not drifting is a positive though, it just means you have grip.

FWIW, to the other poster, I don't think 345s will fit without a lot of work. My fenders are pulled slightly and I have ~15mm from tire to the lip of the quarter panel. It rubs on big bumps. Can't remember the offset of my wheels as they were custom but on the inside the tire already contacts the coilover shock body some and it had to be flattened a little bit. I tried running 5mm spacers and it rubbed nonstop - not just over bumps but every time weight shifted to the rear so it would rub on acceleration.

Maybe if you cut the fender lips off, pulled them out and ran at stock height you could get a 315 in there. I just don't think a 345 is going to work without widebody.
you spin 295 tires launching..? how much HP and what tires?

you want some progressive oversteer at the limit to help the car rotate the corner. plus its fun too.
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