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12-17-2011, 12:15 PM | #67 | |
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IF I were in your shoes... I would purchase (all) the correct fluids - and have an indi shop change it for you. Or do it yourself. Then I would sit down and write BMW NA a nice letter - sent registered US Mail asking for payment for the service you had to have done bc of their dealers are so incompetent. I can not believe this still is happening. |
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12-17-2011, 12:26 PM | #68 |
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So my dealer gave the ok to Change the fluids, I will be on my way this morning. I'm going to have them sign the records stating that they put the wrong fluids in the car.
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12-17-2011, 03:28 PM | #69 |
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Here we go again...
Update: Shop foreman messed up again... He was not aware/going to replace the LT-2 they put in for the LT-5 even though the new service request stated to change my trans oil?!
On top of that I'm getting attitude and treated like crap for their mess. I'll write a more detailed report/review on a new post. |
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12-17-2011, 04:31 PM | #70 | |
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12-17-2011, 07:30 PM | #71 |
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Man. I'm at 1100 miles and quaking in my boots. I mean, everyone here has done their due diligence in informing the dealer and despite doing everything you can, wrong fluids are being put in left and right. WTF???
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12-17-2011, 10:51 PM | #72 | |
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1. Make sure you go there with you the service bulletins printed, be firm that you want to review it with them (I wasn't firm and error occurred). 2. Walk through the correct oil part numbers and verify they are in stock 3. Have them sign annotate on the preliminary service record that the P/N will be used. If you do the above and anything goes wrong than I'd be extremely surprised. If you want to go beyond have them save the empty bottles for proof. In all honest I wouldn't do it any other way. I budged an go screwed. |
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12-17-2011, 11:47 PM | #73 |
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^^+1. I would also make TWO copies of the fluids needed. One for the SA and one leave inside the car for the Tech to see. Or better yet... go talk to the tech who will actually be doing the work.
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12-18-2011, 08:47 PM | #74 |
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But what service bulletin to use for the LT-5? My dealer is not impressed by the Canadian one and I have seen nothing else on these forums...
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12-18-2011, 10:05 PM | #75 |
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gosh... after changed the FM fluid (SAF-XJ ,+FM booster) from BMW but the weird noise from the diff is still here. gotta call my SA to check on this again.
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12-19-2011, 09:05 AM | #77 | |
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http://www.1addicts.com/forums/attac...1&d=1323849897 Might want to call ahead to make sure they've got it, using the Porsche part # on the bottle. Then I got mine changed at a trusted indy mechanic since it's not longer part of the (free) 1,200 mile service at your BMW dealer. |
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12-19-2011, 09:26 AM | #80 | |
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The first PDF from Pentosin references the Porsche part # on the bottle, and the second PDF from ZF references the transmission in the 1M (S6-45) along with the recommended fluid (FFL-3, otherwise known by BMW as MTF-LT-5) |
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Of course, I can't be held responsible in the event that Pentosin/BMW/ZF reverses course on the recommendation, and/or damage occurs to your transmission, etc. This is simply the course I chose to take with my car. The "safest" route from a warranty perspective is certainly to follow the current service recommendations, which don't specify any transmission fluid changes at all at the 1,200 mile service. That said, I (and probably others) suspect that the primary reason the service bulletin was updated to remove transmission service from the running-in service was because the BMW-branded FFL-3 was on backorder. That makes me concerned about what effect the lack of initial fluid change might have after the 50k mile warranty expires. |
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12-19-2011, 11:47 AM | #85 | |
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What's the labor running for a transmission fluid change? I'm waiting to hear back from my dealer and will probably shop it out to some of the local indys. Thanks... |
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12-19-2011, 01:32 PM | #86 |
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I give my indy a lot of business on other cars so mine was free. But shouldn't be billed out at any more than 30 min labor. It's very simple, literally drain and fill. Any one of us could just DIY, but I wanted peace of mind knowing that it was done by a "professional".
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12-20-2011, 05:11 AM | #87 |
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I think so; currently I am trying out the service managers at 2 other dealers in my area (Knauz and Patrick, both suburban Chicago) after dead-ending at Motorwerks. If no satisfaction it is time for "customer relations", first by phone then in writing if need be and would love to tack on other "stories".
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So I'm about to get my run-in service in two days (odo @ 1100) and just to be clear I should ask them NOT to do the manual trans fluid? I know to specify the oil and rear diff fluid but should i just ask the SA to pull up "SI B00 01 10" and have him review with the tech that's doing the work?
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