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Battery warranties on Teslas have been the same for 10 years, by your math it should be double what it currently is. Tesla can't alter the laws of physics. Quote:
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...id/7935230001/ “A Chevy Volt, with just 70,000 miles, needed a new battery and some coolant,” reads an Aug. 25 post shared more than 600 times. “That'll be $30,000 dollars please!” |
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So can you clarify on what you meant then?
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When did tesla launch their first production car available for sale? Where are they now? If anything, tesla is still 10 years ahead of everyone else. On a "dead" battery technology. It will only improve from here. The ICE ban is 2035. Not tomorrow. So time will only help EV. But time is also the enemy of ICE. Quote:
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You can't clean a degraded battery. You replace it. If battery warranty is 10 year, you have nothing to worry about for 10 whole years. And as i said earlier. As time moves foward, this technology will improve thus running up the warranty to maybe 12 years or 15. If you buy an EV in 2035 because you want to wait, imagine not having to worry about a battery replacement out of your pocket until 2050? The average age of a car on the road today is 12 years. Are you keeping your cars longer than 12 years? People lease. People finance for 60 or 72 months. Then trade or sell and get something new. These habits all fall under a battery warranty if a warranty lasts 10-15 years. Quote:
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Cool. So a chevy bolt. And a 2013 model s. Hmmm. 2 cars of the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of EV's on the road. I'll take a chance at keep owning an EV.
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Not gonna fuel the flames on either side of the debate, but this is cool!
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only increase. Also, less moving parts means less overall maintenance for an EV. So while you might know how to drop in a new had gasket every 120k miles, EVs simply don't have head gaskets. Rough idling, sluggish old clunkers will be largely a thing of the past, not to mention oil stains in the driveway.
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Exactly. But watch out, we're not supposed to like EV's even though we still have ICE toys lol. My next 2 cars that are arriving in 2023 are ICE but i'm supposed to hate EV. My model 3 has been one of the best car buys i ever done in over 2 decades. And THE BEST daily i ever had. I can never go back to an ICE daily.
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Cars are going to be made with non-serviceable parts that cost more than $20K just for parts, rendering these cars as mechanically totaled at a rather young age/mileage.
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I think eventually a new battery will be $10k and last 10 years for newer cars. Take into account $3k timing belt change, $2500 head gasket, and $120x10=$1200 in oil changes and it's not too bad considering the car will run like new.
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https://www.hotcars.com/heres-how-ev...ver-the-years/ Solid state batteries seem to be the next evolution: https://electrek.co/2022/07/19/how-s...s-by-up-to-39/
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Exactly. Some people really don't get it. Can't believe people have this of a tough time accepting what's to come.
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People are using their assumption based off past rare scenarios that were the cause of old tech. You wouldn't want to go into the apple store and try to buy an iphone 8 today right? No, you would want the latest one, or at least the most previous model. And a new iphone comes around every 6-8 months or so anyway. As time moves foward, battery technology will improve. I think i said this about 100 times. People are making assumptions based off the past and using it as if that's the future. It is not. Automotive evolution doesn't work that way. EV is inevitably the evolution of the car world.
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People dissing EVs are like horse folk dissing automobiles a century ago. Even the Amish today only use horse and buggy for nostalgia.
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So in like 10+ yrs when this toaster is FUBAR, you can get one for cheap and customer fab an LT4 in it |
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There is no point arguing with the EV nutswingers, especially when some of them are so over-the-top they seem paid to just simply troll their message. I don't think anyone would argue true progress, but EV's in their current iteration are not "progress." It's just swapping one problem for another, hidden behind the guise being socially and environmentally "responsible," exploiting an entire generation whose sole purpose is moral exhibitionism, while enriching those that have manufactured the entire movement.
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reading some of these posts, you guys remind of limousine liberals as they clink their champagne glasses 5 mins before the titanic is going to fall off the edge of the earth it seems almost 'biblical' |
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