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bummer. Still holding out hope that this is incorrect. I'm gonna feel a little cheated if SCOTT has been getting us all worked up for nothing. |
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I needed a pick-me up this morning!
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Unfortunately it's true that BMW have postponed the debut of the M1 Concept.
I'm able to share some information SCOTT thankfully provided: It turns out that the BMW board members drove an M1 prototype earlier this week and asked for siginificant changes due to some problems affecting the car as well as changes to the car including more weight reduction and a new Brake Energy Recovery System. If I understand this correctly, these changes will affect some of the power output of the car (read: it will get more power) which also confirms that an power boost for the M3 will be imminent in 2012. Another significant factor that played a role to this decision was the current economic climate, which made BMW feel that it should put the focus on products coming to the market soon. There are several production models arriving at Geneva for market introduction, hence it is important for BMW to focus on products which are about to go on sale. But, there's always an upside to such decisions and in this case, it's that BMW has extra time and an extra budget to do some extra work on the M1 concept before its initial introduction. When's the M1 concept being shown then, you ask? Well, the most safe bet would be on an appearance at the Paris Motor Show in Autumn with some, but little chances to have an eariler debut at the Beijing Motor Show. An appearance in Beijing would make sense as China has become a growing and important market for M products. Finally, the production version of the M1 will arrive early in 2011. It's surely a downer to many of us that the M1 won't make it to the Geneva Motor Show. But, the reasoning sounds valid to me. Some extra time for an even better car is nothing we should complain about. I'm sure Scott will fill us in with more details and I do hope for some more teasers also. It's also my understanding that this decision has little to no effect on the schedule for the production version M1. It was never supposed to come out earlier than Spring 2011. Best regards, south
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They must be getting their carbon parts from a company I know lol.
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So if it is confirmed for Spring 2011, when will we be able to place an order?
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Good point.
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Maybe Scott can give us a few pictures to chew on.
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Sounds like a huge downer to me. If the next speculation is Autumn for an unveiling....with Spring 2011 production, does anyone else think that timing sounds too tight?
Isn't calendar 2011, (model year 2012), the final run for the e82 chassis? Meaning the e82 M1 would only have a 9 to 12 month sales window before the next 1 series hits the showrooms? I hope I am wrong...but this is beginning to shake my confidence as to if we will see a production e82 M1. However, it is making me think about opening up the wallet to mod my 135. Previously I was on-hold with modding, keeping those pennies for a potential M1. |
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That gives the M1 a possible production run of 2 to 3 years. So very similar to the run of the E30 M3. |
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In 1 year there gonna be so much more competition..
Let's wait and see. Hopefully the delay means we getting supercar for M1 money. Last edited by amdmaxx; 03-01-2010 at 01:46 PM.. |
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Yeah, I fail to see any downside to this. Even if they move back the delivery date, I can't see how less weight and more power with presumably better driving dynamics would be a bad thing. I can say that at 350ish hp and 3,300 pounds, I had little interest in the M1, but this change certainly keeps me interested. |
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Wow....what a bummer--it is good to hear that the car is going to be lighter and more powerful, but you could still draw up a TON of buzz by showing how the car is going to look!
Remember, this car was rumored to be a "go" a long time ago....just wonder if this means that there STILL isn't a green light for the project.... I agree with the previous post that speculated that the timeline for this car will now be really tight....like can't be pulled off tight.....
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Haha great story. The M1 story s getting better day by day. |
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