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You do understand the 1M engine is just a higher boosted N54 right? So the gains won't be 100hp over stock.
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Not a fan of piggyback tunes.
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Wow talk about thread jacked! Guess I'll jump in too. People here really believe that a piggyback is a tune still? It's a signal modifier or manipulator. Meaning the companies working on them took the easy route in getting power. Instead of taking the time to break the dme's coding and programming, they just fool it's input and output signals to get end end result= increased power and torque. So "tuned", no. "fooled", yes. Call it what you will better or worse because of additional features, but it is not and will never be a tune. Therefore, since it is not built into the dme's logic, it will never be as smooth as a true retune. Period. To say that a tune isn't capable of advancing timing beyond the factory range is truly ignorant. The true tuners have complete control and can do what ever they want with the engine, when ever they want. Any of the piggy backs proactively increase the water pump speeds with higher boost levels? Nope, just a little food for thought there. Piggybacks are reactive, where tuning is proactive. Now try to argue that last statement.
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Shiv is working on adaptions for the procede
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Yep. Simple resistance changes for various sensor inputs/outputs fools the dme into thinking the boost, throttle, air temp, etc are different than they really are so the dme corrects for the altered signals.
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I'm not sold on this. I am not convinced a piggyback is the same as a tune. Piggybacks overheat at the track is what I have heard.
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Any tune -- whether piggyback or flash -- can cause an engine to overheat depending on settings and use. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the mechanism used to change the stock tune. Among flash tunes there is Cobb, GIAC and maybe a couple of others. Among piggybacks Burger Tuning's Juice Box and Vishnu Tuning's Procede -- both available with a number of different maps-- are available. Depending on which map you choose, the hardware on the car (oil cooler, larger FMIC, downpipes, meth injection, etc.), the octane gas, and the use, they can produce lots of additional power and work very well. Neil Last edited by MDORPHN; 06-29-2011 at 10:24 AM.. |
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