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To find out which maps you are running you would need to run a USB cable from the PROcede unit and into your computer. Load up the procede user tuning software and within there you should be able to find it out. I dare say that Adrian would have uploaded either the autotune maps or the stage 1 (no supporting mods) aggressive maps. With the supporting mods that you have now you should definitely be able to load the stage 3 (FBO) maps. The other alternative is did you notice that your car had a bit more drone or low frequency noise after you had the procede installed? The new aggressive maps changed the default wastegate position to 50% and it's definitely something I noticed on my car when I upgraded from the autotune to the aggressive maps. I think the best option would be to get into contact with Adrian. Send him a PM and he's usually pretty quick the respond. If that's not an option I'm always happy to help the next time you're down in Sydney. |
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On the procede there are "5" maps. Map 0 - Stock/Valet Map 1 - Tune Map 2 - Tune (if you have autotune maps it is the more aggressive of the two with a higher boost target. If aggressive maps, there's no real reason to run in this mode as far as I can tell from the ReadMe) Map 3 - NA (Opens the wastegates fully to disable the turbos) Map 4 - Progressive Methanol Map Shane, next time you're in the car just bump the cruise control stalk up once and your tacho should read what map you're currently on. By default, if you double click the DTC button it will change the maps up. I had that issue once at the Snowy Mountains 1000. Ran a full pass on NA mode Regardless of what maps you have, Map 1 for you at the moment is probably the best option. Without only DCIs with the autotune maps my boost target was up to at least 15 and I'm pretty sure I reached 14-15psi when using the procede boost gauge. |
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Hi Shane
Dont think i met you at the dyno day but I wasnt there long as I was only picking my car up. Whereabouts in Newcastle are you? I can help you do some logs and get it running better. When I get home I will Pm you my details and can go from there if you want. Quote:
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03-18-2013, 09:25 PM | #159 | |
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I confirmed with Pete was it on map 2 and he said yes he had to do some fiddling around as it was still in map 0 from when I had my car coded in the carpark at advan. I checked also and it was map 2... Regarding a tad more drone... hmm I must admit I didn't notice it to be any noiser, but once the DP's were in I did notice a tractor type of chugging noise on cold starts which Pete assured me was just the wastegates. I believe if this is the case you can change the wastegate position (by memory it was to 50%) and it minimises this noise on cold start up (may indicate that its not at 50% already) I did send him a PM to see what ideas he may have, hopefully he can nut this one out for me! |
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Just wondering what was the best result out of the 1M's? and how many where there?
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03-19-2013, 12:36 AM | #164 | |
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Maybe John can chime in for more detail, but pretty sure his only mods where the ESS tune ( not sure what mapping ) and Akropovic Evolution exhaust. Joe |
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03-19-2013, 12:45 AM | #165 | |
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I did a baseline dyno last time, the only mod was N55 midpipe. Here's the dyno chart. |
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03-19-2013, 12:50 AM | #166 | |
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03-19-2013, 01:18 AM | #168 |
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I am still here guys... just very busy with some other stuff in my other life.
I do alot of installs, but I am pretty sure when I installed JEKLs I would have put in a map to suit the mods it had at the time. It was stock at the time so that would have been a stage 0 map. I am not aware if the maps were changed to more agressive maps when the other parts were installed, but they should have. I would be running stage 2 or stage 3, and I would be aiming for about 15psi at around 6000RPM, and a little more at lower RPM. With 4psi more boost I would expect another 20-30kW if everything else is working right to allow the turbos to reach their limits with as much efficiency as possible. As to why it is running less boost now than originally.... I cannot say I know exactly which maps were run, but it is possible that the first dyno was done immediately after install and the autotune was tuning down, but had not stabalised yet (it takes a few minutes of high boost to fully stabalise). One dyno run may have resulted in higher boost while the Procede was still running higher than it was attempting to autotune to. JEKL, is your Procede Rev 2 or 3? If I recall correctly, I installed but you supplied the Procede? Cheers, Adrian |
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and that is a healthy baseline, N55 mids have to be the best mod ever!!! |
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03-19-2013, 04:39 AM | #171 |
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Im loveing all these dyno figures and I would kindly ask the 1M guys to come out one Wednesday to WSID for a night out fun and a social meet up..! |
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03-19-2013, 05:19 AM | #172 | |
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Its a Rev 2.5 AFAIK and yes correct supplied by me and maps and installation done by yourself. TBH I had no idea the maps had to be updated when more mods were to be added, and obviously the guys @ advan were non the wiser also (I guess it doesn't help when I didn't ask them to do so when the bolts on were installed!) May I ask what are the pros and cons to running the stage 2 vs the stage 3? |
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03-19-2013, 06:46 AM | #173 |
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FYI guys some of you may find this info handy that I stumbled upon now that I realise I should be running a stage 2/3 map on my procede
With different tunes in the market and there recommended stages for different maps, whats the ideal bolt-on to run what tune and different stages? COBB Stage 1 - Stock Car Stage 1+ - Stock + FMIC Stage 2 - Stock + Catless DPs Stage 2+ - Stock + Catless DPs + FMIC + Upgraded Intake JB4 Stage 1 - Stock Car (Map 1) Stage 2 - Stock Car + Catless DPs (93 Octane) (Map 2) Stage 3 - Stage 4 - Stock + Catless DPs + Upgraded Intake + FMIC + Methanol + Upgraded Turbos Procede v3 Stage 0 - Stock Car (High altitude & poor fuel quality & high temp) (Map Stg 0) Stage 1 - Stock Car (Map Stg 1) Stage 2 - Stock + Catless DPs + FMIC (91 Octane) ; Stock + Catless DPs (93+ Octane) (Map Stg 2) Stage 3 - Stock + Catless DPs + Upgraded Intake + FMIC (Map Stg 3) Stage 4 - Stock + Catless DPs + Upgraded Intake + FMIC + Upgraded Turbos (Map FBO Upgraded Turbos) FBO = Tune | Downpipes | Intake | FMIC | Cat Back Exhaust (Optional) |
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It looks like you have it all sorted mate. I think you can run stage 3 on your car. I believe you would pick up atleast 20kW with that. If you then decide to fiddle with E85, there may be another 20-30kW up for grabs. My thoughts are that running meth and ethanol blends do alot of the same thing, so with the right mix of E85 and the correct tune setup, you should be able to get similar results to someone running meth. I would hope we could get to around 290ish kW ATW.
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Especially considering stock M's are pulling 250+kw's alone. But up here around 230. PS. I'm not trying to start a fight. Honestly just pointing out something we've noticed but nobody wants to say. |
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Sounds like you guys had a great time!
Does anyone have a graph displaying rpm as opposed to kph? I'm keen to see the boost response in the low to mid range. Also, any torque figures? |
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