Spotted: 1-series supersport lightweight / competition model?!

Spartikus · 10-24-2009, 05:18 PM

This could get interesting.

aesthetect · 11-02-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by adc

All you need to drop 0.2 seconds is better/wider tires and some 30-40 BHP. Add a better suspension, a limited slip and loose some 200 lbs and you'll be right there with the M3 - or faster.

For the E46 M3 CSL, I believe BMW lost 185kg, which is 407 lbs. I'm sure someone can verify this number - but what I'm getting at is that it's very easy for BMW to drop 200-300 lbs for a limited edition racer...

Ask yourself this question - would you buy the supersports if it came without a radio, A/C and rear seats? I personally wouldn't, because I need at least the A/C and rear seats...

can anybody chime in on that? that would provide significant insight to any weight saving speculation
edit: although we would be further speculating into a car design based on numbers from a car that didnt ever make it to US anyway

speaking of not going to make it here, 123d supersport > *

adc · 11-02-2009, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by aesthetect

can anybody chime in on that? that would provide significant insight to any weight saving speculation
edit: although we would be further speculating into a car design based on numbers from a car that didnt ever make it to US anyway

speaking of not going to make it here, 123d supersport > *

The number I quoted (185kg) came from memory. Here is what I've found on the web:
http://www.diseno-art.com/encyclopedia/vehicles/road/cars/bmw_m3_csl.html
http://www.supercarsite.net/bmw/e46-m3-csl/2003
http://www.exoticcarsite.com/pages/bmw_e46_m3_csl.htm

You get the idea...

They all list around 1385kg/3054lbs. The US Spec E46 m3 was listed at 3415 lbs if I'm not mistaken. So perhaps the drop was 360 lbs, not 407. Anyway, it was significant.

BMW86 · 11-02-2009, 05:14 PM

If I remember correctly the E46 M3 CSL had no A/C either!!

Add1ct · 11-02-2009, 05:57 PM

yea I remember reading/hearing that the only reason it had power windows was so that the windows could do their little mini roll-down/up when opening and closing the doors

aesthetect · 11-02-2009, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adc

The number I quoted (185kg) came from memory. Here is what I've found on the web:
http://www.diseno-art.com/encyclopedia/vehicles/road/cars/bmw_m3_csl.html
http://www.supercarsite.net/bmw/e46-m3-csl/2003
http://www.exoticcarsite.com/pages/bmw_e46_m3_csl.htm

You get the idea...

They all list around 1385kg/3054lbs. The US Spec E46 m3 was listed at 3415 lbs if I'm not mistaken. So perhaps the drop was 360 lbs, not 407. Anyway, it was significant.

nice. thats still more than i had ever imagined.

bim14 · 01-15-2010, 08:53 PM

when do you guys think that this thing will be out? im turning in my e92 on its lease on Nov. 2010....?

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