lookin to achive 400 plus whp

mistir135i · 07-05-2012, 02:59 PM

Please don't trash the thread I tried searching quickly while at wok; however I currently have an Cobb AP, and I'm looking to achieve 400 plus whp/wtq.... Any suggestions?

Thank you and kid regards,
Jim

ccdigmann · 07-05-2012, 03:09 PM

I think with downpipes, midpipes (2 more cats in there in N54), FMIC, intake (BMS is OK) and some +100 oct gas (I´m not sure if you can with Cobb) you should get a close number... Without fuel race you could try meth. Meth + FBO you could get +410 rwhp

rader1 · 07-05-2012, 05:31 PM

The stage 2+ maps will get you damn close to 400whp. With FBO+meth ATR/ATP maps you're looking at 420+HP/450+rwtq.

135Pats · 07-05-2012, 05:59 PM

As has been said, with a significant but not cringe-inducing investment you can clear 400whp without much trouble...Downpipes, a more aggressive map, fmic, new midpipes or axle back and you should be around the target. Add meth and you've def cleared it.

mistir135i · 07-05-2012, 08:54 PM

thats EXACTlY what I've been looking to achieve.... Handlin won't be to far off after gettin the upgrades. Does any one have any suggestions for a dp and mid pir; sorry for the all the questions but this is my first bimmer. ALOT companyies stay the mid and dp and 3in....i;m look for the inside diameter of 3 and no,,,, while were at it... besides Dinan;s really expensive exhaust (1 is it worth iT)? Or is there someone out there ) remebmer no cat or resornators as well as fmic.... I;lll know I;ll need biger injectors & fuel pump.... but anything would be a great help.... And again sorry for all the questions, I just want real answers from the true 135i drivers who know thee cars in nd out.

Thank you and kind regards,
Jim (Cell # (203) 400-4548

Lookingf to meet my new frieds

rader1 · 07-05-2012, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistir135i

thats EXACTlY what I've been looking to achieve.... Handlin won't be to far off after gettin the upgrades. Does any one have any suggestions for a dp and mid pir; sorry for the all the questions but this is my first bimmer. ALOT companyies stay the mid and dp and 3in....i;m look for the inside diameter of 3 and no,,,, while were at it... besides Dinan;s really expensive exhaust (1 is it worth iT)? Or is there someone out there ) remebmer no cat or resornators as well as fmic.... I;lll know I;ll need biger injectors & fuel pump.... but anything would be a great help.... And again sorry for all the questions, I just want real answers from the true 135i drivers who know thee cars in nd out.

Thank you and kind regards,
Jim (Cell # (203) 400-4548

Lookingf to meet my new frieds

Umm, could you please repeat that? Not trying to be an ass but I'm not sure what you just said lol

Dosturbos · 07-05-2012, 09:26 PM

I'd throw a new charge pipe with diverter valve into the mix (along with Dp's, FMIC and CAI), if you're going to hit 400tq/400whp, without meth, you're going to need to be able to build and hold boost. If I did not buy my car with full exhaust already installed I would not spend extra dough on midpipes. Spend the cash on a good axleback and high-quality downpipes that fit right. The shitty ones vibrate and are too loud.
Also, you can have a custom map made for your AP. I know EFI Logics in CT does this or Bren Tuning in Worcester, MA can also do it. It's way better than an OTS map.
Also, Mistr135, this car isn't an STI or EVO. The car has Direct injection and a High pressure fuel pump, you don't need to dick around with any of that Deatschwerks crap to get better fueling. Also, the 135's ECU is far superior to that of a Subaru or EVO.
Speaking as a current WRX owner.
Also, once you buy a bimmer, you have no friends, everyone immediately thinks you're an asshole with too much money to spend.

mistir135i · 07-05-2012, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rader1

Umm, could you please repeat that? Not trying to be an ass but I'm not sure what you just said lol

sure no problrem, sorry for the conduion,

I;m looking for best part we well as achivmenra==:

1. Which dowpipe ( catkessl however I want thw indie diameter to be w=3inch]
2. Best FMIC with-out much buj0er trimmim
3. Intake ( pove hearing my twins spoool)
4. Great mid pipe (again no cats)

Finally a terrific TB exhaust, sound has is not an issue!
I know I'll need to upgrade my intecotor an FP; I used DW''A on my dri; will these be good rnod? Also Ive NEVER instwll

ken1137 · 07-05-2012, 09:55 PM

Here you go...look at her mod list. The fastest woman on these boards

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...ght=Yuchi+dyno

LinkA8A0A · 07-05-2012, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistir135i

sure no problrem, sorry for the conduion,

I;m looking for best part we well as achivmenra==:

1. Which dowpipe ( catkessl however I want thw indie diameter to be w=3inch]
2. Best FMIC with-out much buj0er trimmim
3. Intake ( pove hearing my twins spoool)
4. Great mid pipe (again no cats)

Finally a terrific TB exhaust, sound has is not an issue!
I know I'll need to upgrade my intecotor an FP; I used DW''A on my dri; will these be good rnod? Also Ive NEVER instwll

HAHAHAHAHAHA!! I want a FMIC with-out much buj0er trimmim, too!

Eyeman · 07-05-2012, 10:41 PM

You can definitely get 400whp with full bolt ons without meth. But if you really just want a dyno hp number, just get meth. Beware that with that much you better get some wider tires or an LSD, or preferably both. I backed off on my plans for meth when I realized that even with an LSD, I still spin tires up into the 60mph range.

Most here just recommend the mods they chose as being best. I'd do the same, stick with your Cobb, get the same bolt-ons that I have listed in my signature, then upgrade to the most aggressive Cobb map and you'll be right at 400whp/420wtq.

rader1 · 07-06-2012, 12:31 AM

To be honest at the FBO tune hp level all different brands of mods are going to perform very similar. It's only when you're chasing the last possible ounce of power that certain brands/designs are worth the cost. Determine how much you want to spend and go from there.

The only caveat I will add is DO NOT buy Dinan. They are the worst offenders when it comes to overcharging people for parts "because it's a BMW." Not only that but their performance is laughable.

mistir135i · 07-06-2012, 08:00 AM

[QUOTE=Eyeman;12276156]You can definitely get 400whp with full bolt ons without meth. But if you really just want a dyno hp number, just get meth. Beware that with that much you better get some wider tires or an LSD, or preferably both. I backed off on my plans for meth when I realized that even with an LSD, I still spin tires up into the 60mph range.

Most here just recommend the mods they chose as being best. I'd do the same, stick with your Cobb, get the same bolt-ons that I have listed in my signature, then upgrade to the most aggressive Cobb map and you'll be right at 400whp/42wtg

I love can ther steering reponse, is tight as hell!!

Thanks again for all the help!!!

bogart · 07-06-2012, 08:06 AM

400 is easy... let's talk about something like 550...

ragingpanda · 07-06-2012, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by bogart

400 is easy... let's talk about something like 550...

Need a big single for that and deep pockets lol.

Colt · 07-06-2012, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bogart

400 is easy... let's talk about something like 550...

or a little more realistic....450-500whp lol

Hokie135Hi · 07-06-2012, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angerman

or a little more realistic....450-500whp lol

I think you can do this without a single turbo setup. Upgraded turbos and a JB4 G5 board should get you there and, of course, the other previous mods that got you to 400 rwhp.

Colt · 07-06-2012, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hokie135Hi

I think you can do this without a single turbo setup. Upgraded turbos and a JB4 G5 board should get you there and, of course, the other previous mods that got you to 400 rwhp.

Yea I think it's doable. Anyone in that kind of range on here?

ActionJaxon · 03-15-2013, 02:21 PM

I am at 404whp and 440tq on a dynojet with only a 2009 n54 JB4 G5, Cp-E intakes, and 93/e85 (55%/45% mix).

I just added a custom muffler delete, now Im holding 17.5 psi tapering to 16.5 all the way to redline. I have a dyno graph if you need to see, but I promise its a good reading trusted dyno, (vengeance motorsports Georgia).

FOACAD · 03-15-2013, 02:37 PM

Since this is so old I wont really comment to the OP.

Something I find very interesting though is that in 8 months we have gone from saying that FBO+meth is the preferred method for 400+whp all the way to just a tune, intake and E85 mixture doing the trick.

Really makes me excited for what the future holds for these cars. Hopefully it doesnt take long to see an N55 break the 400 mark.

BrokenVert · 03-15-2013, 02:39 PM

Hey OP you mentioned upgrading you fuel pump and injectors. Just a quick word.

You cant do that on an N54 car. We have Direct Injection, meaning that the injectors throw fuel directly into the cylinders at thousands of psi.

Since these injectors are bored directly through the cylinder walls you cant just put a bigger one on. Same with the fuel pump, it acts to increase rail pressure to thousands of psi. Its not an easy job to upgrade something like that, and as a result, nobody makes a product.

Im not trying to sound like an arrogant person, but you should do some more research as to how your engine actually operates before throwing parts onto it. Itll save you a lot of head scratching in the future.

Son of a bitch its a scourge thread...well regardless im leaving this comment up.

FOACAD · 03-15-2013, 02:51 PM

Actually, fuel pump has become doable. Most are opting for the Walbro 450. Also, Vishnu has a flex fuel sensor they have out for when you go to that setup. I think they are charging like 800+ for it though. The actual part is only like 300-400 but its possibly they crack them open and do some proprietary stuff inside as I cant see any other reason they would mark up that part so much.

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mistir135i Turbo = :) 6 Rep 33 Posts Drives: 08 135i Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Ct iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 BMW 135i [0.00]	lookin to achive 400 plus whp Please don't trash the thread I tried searching quickly while at wok; however I currently have an Cobb AP, and I'm looking to achieve 400 plus whp/wtq.... Any suggestions? Thank you and kid regards, Jim __________________ 2008 BMW 135i Cobb AccessPort BMS Dual Cone filter More to come
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ccdigmann New Member 2 Rep 27 Posts Drives: Bmw 135i Step N54 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: SCL iTrader: (0)	I think with downpipes, midpipes (2 more cats in there in N54), FMIC, intake (BMS is OK) and some +100 oct gas (I´m not sure if you can with Cobb) you should get a close number... Without fuel race you could try meth. Meth + FBO you could get +410 rwhp __________________ BMW 135i Steptronic 2009 N54///JB4///DCI BMS///Cp-e downpipes///N55 midpipes///Cp-e stealthpipe axleback///FMIC FORGE
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rader1 Banned 74 Rep 2,197 Posts Drives: Cobb Stage 2+ 135i Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Roanoke, VA iTrader: (0)	The stage 2+ maps will get you damn close to 400whp. With FBO+meth ATR/ATP maps you're looking at 420+HP/450+rwtq.
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135Pats Major General 467 Rep 6,478 Posts Drives: A few BMWs Join Date: May 2012 Location: Maryland iTrader: (3)	As has been said, with a significant but not cringe-inducing investment you can clear 400whp without much trouble...Downpipes, a more aggressive map, fmic, new midpipes or axle back and you should be around the target. Add meth and you've def cleared it. __________________ E88 N54 Alpinweiss/Coral Red/Motiv HTA 3586r Tial .82AR/Other stuff...652WHP F30 N55 XDrive EBII
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mistir135i Turbo = :) 6 Rep 33 Posts Drives: 08 135i Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Ct iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 BMW 135i [0.00]	thats EXACTlY what I've been looking to achieve.... Handlin won't be to far off after gettin the upgrades. Does any one have any suggestions for a dp and mid pir; sorry for the all the questions but this is my first bimmer. ALOT companyies stay the mid and dp and 3in....i;m look for the inside diameter of 3 and no,,,, while were at it... besides Dinan;s really expensive exhaust (1 is it worth iT)? Or is there someone out there ) remebmer no cat or resornators as well as fmic.... I;lll know I;ll need biger injectors & fuel pump.... but anything would be a great help.... And again sorry for all the questions, I just want real answers from the true 135i drivers who know thee cars in nd out. Thank you and kind regards, Jim (Cell # (203) 400-4548 Lookingf to meet my new frieds __________________ 2008 BMW 135i Cobb AccessPort BMS Dual Cone filter More to come
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Dosturbos Lieutenant 58 Rep 467 Posts Drives: 2017 F48 X1 MSport Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Medford, MA iTrader: (1)	I'd throw a new charge pipe with diverter valve into the mix (along with Dp's, FMIC and CAI), if you're going to hit 400tq/400whp, without meth, you're going to need to be able to build and hold boost. If I did not buy my car with full exhaust already installed I would not spend extra dough on midpipes. Spend the cash on a good axleback and high-quality downpipes that fit right. The shitty ones vibrate and are too loud. Also, you can have a custom map made for your AP. I know EFI Logics in CT does this or Bren Tuning in Worcester, MA can also do it. It's way better than an OTS map. Also, Mistr135, this car isn't an STI or EVO. The car has Direct injection and a High pressure fuel pump, you don't need to dick around with any of that Deatschwerks crap to get better fueling. Also, the 135's ECU is far superior to that of a Subaru or EVO. Speaking as a current WRX owner. Also, once you buy a bimmer, you have no friends, everyone immediately thinks you're an asshole with too much money to spend. Last edited by Dosturbos; 07-05-2012 at 09:34 PM..
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Eyeman Colonel 129 Rep 2,053 Posts Drives: 2008 135 blk, blk, step Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (0) Garage List 1994 Porsche 968 Cab [0.00] 2017 AMG GTS [0.00] 1994 Porsche 968 Coupe [0.00] 1977 Mercedes 450SE ... [0.00] 2008 135 [8.00]	You can definitely get 400whp with full bolt ons without meth. But if you really just want a dyno hp number, just get meth. Beware that with that much you better get some wider tires or an LSD, or preferably both. I backed off on my plans for meth when I realized that even with an LSD, I still spin tires up into the 60mph range. Most here just recommend the mods they chose as being best. I'd do the same, stick with your Cobb, get the same bolt-ons that I have listed in my signature, then upgrade to the most aggressive Cobb map and you'll be right at 400whp/420wtq. __________________ Injen, RR OCC, MadDad Whisper, donut spare, 19x8.5et43fr 19x9.5et45r Volk LE37's, rear fenders rolled/pulled, PSS4S 225/35fr 255/30r, KW V1's, AR coated catless dps, Cross strutbar, CF grills and license plate holder, iCarbon diffuser, ETS black anodized FMIC, M3 control arms, Quaife, ER chargepipe, ForgeDV's, Topspeed Custom Tune, V3sims, Braille, Andrey_GTA rear hub mod, Ebay Mstyle front bumper and performance style side skirts.
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rader1 Banned 74 Rep 2,197 Posts Drives: Cobb Stage 2+ 135i Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Roanoke, VA iTrader: (0)	To be honest at the FBO tune hp level all different brands of mods are going to perform very similar. It's only when you're chasing the last possible ounce of power that certain brands/designs are worth the cost. Determine how much you want to spend and go from there. The only caveat I will add is DO NOT buy Dinan. They are the worst offenders when it comes to overcharging people for parts "because it's a BMW." Not only that but their performance is laughable.
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mistir135i Turbo = :) 6 Rep 33 Posts Drives: 08 135i Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Ct iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 BMW 135i [0.00]	Thank You All 1addicts [QUOTE=Eyeman;12276156]You can definitely get 400whp with full bolt ons without meth. But if you really just want a dyno hp number, just get meth. Beware that with that much you better get some wider tires or an LSD, or preferably both. I backed off on my plans for meth when I realized that even with an LSD, I still spin tires up into the 60mph range. Most here just recommend the mods they chose as being best. I'd do the same, stick with your Cobb, get the same bolt-ons that I have listed in my signature, then upgrade to the most aggressive Cobb map and you'll be right at 400whp/42wtg I love can ther steering reponse, is tight as hell!! Thanks again for all the help!!! __________________ 2008 BMW 135i Cobb AccessPort BMS Dual Cone filter More to come
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bogart Lieutenant Colonel 136 Rep 1,664 Posts Drives: E82 N55 DCT Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: STL, MO iTrader: (4) Garage List 2011 BMW 135i [7.06]	400 is easy... let's talk about something like 550... __________________
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ActionJaxon 1Dirty5 2 Rep 19 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Space Gray Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Atlanta, Ga iTrader: (0)	400whp I am at 404whp and 440tq on a dynojet with only a 2009 n54 JB4 G5, Cp-E intakes, and 93/e85 (55%/45% mix). I just added a custom muffler delete, now Im holding 17.5 psi tapering to 16.5 all the way to redline. I have a dyno graph if you need to see, but I promise its a good reading trusted dyno, (vengeance motorsports Georgia). __________________ 2009 135i Space Gray Sport Package, Jb4 G5 Map 5 (17-.5psi e85), Cp-e DCI, Michelin PSS 225/40/28 250/35/18[/FONT]
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FOACAD Airborne! 19 Rep 533 Posts Drives: 2012 AW/CR 135i Msport Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: KC, MO iTrader: (0)	Since this is so old I wont really comment to the OP. Something I find very interesting though is that in 8 months we have gone from saying that FBO+meth is the preferred method for 400+whp all the way to just a tune, intake and E85 mixture doing the trick. Really makes me excited for what the future holds for these cars. Hopefully it doesnt take long to see an N55 break the 400 mark.
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BrokenVert Resident Kerbalnaut 527 Rep 10,703 Posts Drives: Topless Brute/Hybrid Boogaloo Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Fahrvergnügen/NY iTrader: (0)	Hey OP you mentioned upgrading you fuel pump and injectors. Just a quick word. You cant do that on an N54 car. We have Direct Injection, meaning that the injectors throw fuel directly into the cylinders at thousands of psi. Since these injectors are bored directly through the cylinder walls you cant just put a bigger one on. Same with the fuel pump, it acts to increase rail pressure to thousands of psi. Its not an easy job to upgrade something like that, and as a result, nobody makes a product. Im not trying to sound like an arrogant person, but you should do some more research as to how your engine actually operates before throwing parts onto it. Itll save you a lot of head scratching in the future. Son of a bitch its a scourge thread...well regardless im leaving this comment up. __________________
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FOACAD Airborne! 19 Rep 533 Posts Drives: 2012 AW/CR 135i Msport Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: KC, MO iTrader: (0)	Actually, fuel pump has become doable. Most are opting for the Walbro 450. Also, Vishnu has a flex fuel sensor they have out for when you go to that setup. I think they are charging like 800+ for it though. The actual part is only like 300-400 but its possibly they crack them open and do some proprietary stuff inside as I cant see any other reason they would mark up that part so much.
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