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That said, there are a few who think it is too loud. Those people should keep stock or golf-tee mod then, as the PE is really on the tasteful end of the volume spectrum for aftermarket exhausts. The only time it is what I would consider "loud" is on cold start for about 20 seconds. But I even like that. There are also a few who complain of "drone". I understand some people are more sensitive to exhaust noise than others, but I don not experience any drone whatsoever. There is a resonant effect during light acceleration between 1800-2200 RPM, but I wouldn't call it drone, and it does not stay at steady highway speeds. However, I have a 6MT, and I think the complaints come mostly from DCT or AT drivers, where the car may have a slightly different cruise RPM than the MT. I agree with Steve, that the PE is perhaps the best investment you can make on this car. It is intoxicating, causing me to drive with the driver's window down and heat blasting in cold weather just to listen to it. It is especially great when driving next to a Jersey barrier when the sound bounces back at you. One note: if you get it and you drive an N54, definitely get the N55 midpipe (secondary cat delete) and Y-pipe (resonator delete) for best sound (assuming stock DP).
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Well it IS louder than the golf tee mod. It is supposed to be. But IMHO the tone is better - mainly deeper, and I get overrun burbles and pops with the PE and no PPK (though somewhat less of it than those WITH the PPK).
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With just the PE I would get one burble when going down the ramps in my condo parking garage. After the PPK was installed, it would sometimes last down the entire ramp. Burble burble fart blat burble burble burble. LOVE it!!! |
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I know its been said probably once or twice but I just want to reiterate a couple of things since I also have first hand experience with PPK and Dinan.
- Dinan Stage 2 software WILL overwrite BMW PPK. - However Dinan Stage 2 WILL still have those wonderful overrun burbles and pops with stock, BMW PE and Dinan Exhausts. - The Dinan tune does much more than simply increase HP/TQ. I cannot say enough great things about the quality of the product coming from Dinan, even if it's just a tune. I've done a Dinan signature package and have zero regrets. |
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Now I have Dinan Stage II and Dinan Exhaust. So essentially I am saying any difference in sound between this video and my car is almost completely from the exhaust setup. The Dinan exhaust isn't quite as loud or 'grunty' as the PE below say 2500rpm. At WOT it's a screamin' banshee just like the BMW PE. Mine sounds a little less raw, a little more refined and quiet below 3000rpm. I was worried that the Dinan exhaust was going to be too quiet. But I honestly think it's just right. I'll work on getting a video for you. I'm trying to sell my GoPro so I'll have to get together with my brother to get a driving video. If nothing else I can get a decent phone video in the driveway until then. |
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1) Dinan Stage 3 software WILL overwrite BMW PPK. 2) However, Dinan Stage 3 WILL still have those wonderful overrun burbles and pops with stock, BMW Performance Exhaust
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EDIT: Amended my feedback in comment #59 Karl.
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burbles going which I think is what the PPK tune does.
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I must give that a go...
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I don't disbelieve you, but I have the Cobb installed (on a 135i with the PE and a 6spd stick) and I have tons of pops and gurgles. Odd.
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Thanks for the feedback and guidance. I went back out in the car this afternoon and I'm going to amend my previous statement and say... there are still some gurgles with the Cobb, though really only noticeable with the windows down. Whereas previously (with the windows up) there was a veritable cacophony of sounds with PPK/PE. Karl.
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I have been reading so many threads & posts and now getting informational overload
Just a silly question. If the PE removes the resonator, then couldn't you just remove this on the stock n55 and get a similar exhaust sound? I only ask because I am about to purchase the PE and want to make sure its the right purchase. I also don't want to mess with any parts related to emission requirements that will cause it to fail. I am assuming the PE will not do this because they would not sell here, at least not via a BMW dealer I will be doing the install myself and then getting the Dinan stage 2 following. |
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Had a Dinan exhaust installed yesterday. Man that thing screams!
Now that the car is breathing much better Its time for a tune. I too would prefer awesome sound over larger power/torque gains as the vehicle is already well balanced and fun to drive but I'm also interested in a complete Dinan vehicle and purchased a stage 2 suspension system that I have yet to install. The PPK1 paired with the PE sounds great! It would be nice to hear a Dinan Exhaust paired with the Dinan Stage 2 tune before I make my final decision this spring. Thanks for all the great info guys! |
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Because of the BMW PE emits those nasty snaps, crackles and burbles on deceleration. I know, I have it and love it!
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I'm about to be in the same boat as OP. I am hoping to get a 2009 135i this weekend, and, after coming from a modded Mustang GT, those exhaust crackles and pops are HUGE to me. So its kinda frustrating that out of all the tunes out there, the only one with programmed popping is the PPK. You can also get the noises from a louder exhaust, but not to the same degree and at that point you might be inviting drone, which I absolutely DO NOT want. I really wish Cobb and Dinan would make overrun popping tunes. Its up to us to let them know what we want. |
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