Does M Sport = Sport Exuast

1N4ttro · 03-03-2017, 12:46 PM

My 1 has a nice tone IMO, it is not as loud like an M car but not far from it. I have always assumed I have the sport exhaust simply because of how it sounds compared to other regular 335s & 535s. In my visits to this forums I have noticed that so many people want to add the sport exhaust and suddenly made me wonder if I even have it. Is there a way to know for sure? I checked VinDecoder and nothing was listed, not sure if exhaust type would be listed. I have not had a chance to listen to another 135 to compare so I was wondering if I have it or not. Thanks.

mr.fabulous · 03-03-2017, 01:33 PM

I believe black tips == MSport, chrome tips == PE?

Stewy_604 · 03-03-2017, 01:44 PM

The black tips are just part of the Shadowline package, your 135i does not have the PE from factory. That said, from what I understand, the 135iS gets the PE installed prior to delivery.

MightyMouseTech · 03-03-2017, 01:49 PM

If the tips are welded on, it is the PE, if the tips are just slip on, you have the standard exhaust.

Although, I took my black stock tips and jammed them over the PE exhaust tips. So, there is that.

Esteban · 03-03-2017, 04:54 PM

Black chrome slip on tips are standard on the 135i.

angler · 03-04-2017, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

If the tips are welded on, it is the PE, if the tips are just slip on, you have the standard exhaust.

Although, I took my black stock tips and jammed them over the PE exhaust tips. So, there is that.

Lol, I did the same

dsocold · 03-04-2017, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by angler

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Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

If the tips are welded on, it is the PE, if the tips are just slip on, you have the standard exhaust.

Although, I took my black stock tips and jammed them over the PE exhaust tips. So, there is that.

Lol, I did the same

can either of you plz post a pic of this lol..

i have the pe and i thought the tips are bigger and they stick out more and that you wouldnt be able to wedge the black tips on it not that i would anyway as im a fan of the clean laser cut sharp lookin PE tips

Esteban · 03-04-2017, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dsocold

can either of you plz post a pic of this lol..

i have the pe and i thought the tips are bigger and they stick out more and that you wouldnt be able to wedge the black tips on it not that i would anyway as im a fan of the clean laser cut sharp lookin PE tips

I also like the PE tips better.

Dackelone · 03-04-2017, 04:04 AM

You can also look under the car(at the muffler box/tips) and look for a vacuum hose... IF the hose goes to a servo... you have the standard exhaust. IF the hose just slips onto a welded port on the exhaust pipe... you have a PE. Here is a pic of the standard vs PE exhausts...

stand exhaust with black tips... PE with chrome tips. On the left exhaust... notice the servo flap(lower black part) the PE do not have this servo. Some guys will pinch or remove the vacuum line on a standard exhaust - to get a slightly deeper exhaust note. It is commonly referred to as the "golf tee mod".
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The PE also has a y-pipe to delete the resonator before the exhaust muffler. Maybe some did this to your car ?

Here are my stock N54 mids with the PE's y-pipe laying ontop of it. The PE's y-pipe deletes the factory rear resonator.
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PepE92M3 · 03-04-2017, 04:33 AM

Wondering if a PE exhaust from 128i will fit the 135i and if it is will it sounds the same, thanks.

dsocold · 03-04-2017, 04:50 AM

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Wondering if a PE exhaust from 128i will fit the 135i and if it is will it sounds the same, thanks.

im pretty sure they are different

PepE92M3 · 03-04-2017, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dsocold

im pretty sure they are different

Thanks but I my 128i PE catback looks exactly the same.

dsocold · 03-04-2017, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by PepE88

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Originally Posted by dsocold

im pretty sure they are different

Thanks but I my 128i PE catback looks exactly the same.

from a previous thread i read the guy claims he took the 28i pe to the dealer and had it fitted, but who knows what it will sound like cant be too bad i guess...

PepE92M3 · 03-04-2017, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dsocold

from a previous thread i read the guy claims he took the 28i pe to the dealer and had it fitted, but who knows what it will sound like cant be too bad i guess...

Thank you again bro for this info.

MightyMouseTech · 03-04-2017, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dsocold

can either of you plz post a pic of this lol..

i have the pe and i thought the tips are bigger and they stick out more and that you wouldnt be able to wedge the black tips on it not that i would anyway as im a fan of the clean laser cut sharp lookin PE tips

Will do. I had to cut the chrome tips so the black tips did not stick out too far. I am just not a fan of anything chrome on the car.

c1pher · 03-04-2017, 09:27 AM

Love the sound of my PE exhaust. Doubt it makes power but does sound lovely.

MightyMouseTech · 03-04-2017, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

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Originally Posted by dsocold

can either of you plz post a pic of this lol..

i have the pe and i thought the tips are bigger and they stick out more and that you wouldnt be able to wedge the black tips on it not that i would anyway as im a fan of the clean laser cut sharp lookin PE tips

Will do. I had to cut the chrome tips so the black tips did not stick out too far. I am just not a fan of anything chrome on the car.

The black tips JUST fit over the chrome tips, they have to be "persuaded" on with a soft mallet. Sorry, no pics of the chrome tips cut. I cut the outer tip a little bit more than the inner to match the contour of the bumper.

c1pher · 03-04-2017, 10:07 AM

I am not a chrome fan either. I kinda wish the PE tips were black or black chrome. Don't see myself cutting them up to fit those on though. If there were slip ons I'd try them.

Dackelone · 03-04-2017, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PepE88

Wondering if a PE exhaust from 128i will fit the 135i and if it is will it sounds the same, thanks.

BMW makes different PE's for almost all of the 1er's models. Heck even for a 116i you can get a PE.

The 128i(or 125i over here) have a smaller diameter exhaust pipe. Also they are only a rear section muffler, which you need to cut the 128i standard exhaust just after the center pipe. Here is a great DIY that user MikeinAlexandria made a while back...

DIY: BMW Performance Exhaust on 128i cabrio
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Originally Posted by dsocold

from a previous thread i read the guy claims he took the 128i PE to the dealer and had it fitted, but who knows what it will sound like cant be too bad i guess...

That sounds like BS to me. The 128i won't fit. Smaller diameter pipe and it's only the rear can/muffler - no y-pipe at all.

A few years back... there was a German company near Dusseldorf(Inside Performance) who were making four exhaust pipe systems for 125i(128i's) and 120i cars. One forum member over here drove up from Ramstein AFB and had them install it on his 135i. The kit was quite expensive at close to 2,800 euros(I think?) bc it also need a special cf rear diffuser to work with the four M3 style tips.

But after a week or so of driving... the guy realized his top end power was cut off, bc the pipe diameter was really much smaller than his "stock" exhaust system. He had the shop put the old exhaust back on his car! I think he got a refund.

Inside Performance's 125i/128i four pipe exhaust system...
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just FIYI.. here is what the 128i PE looks like... just by looking at the tips... it DOES indeed look like a 135i PE. But the kit is totally different and there is no resonator delete. This is why the 128i PE is so much cheaper than the 135i PE.

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Esteban · 03-04-2017, 12:36 PM

I don't really like chrome either. Especially chrome wheels.

I like the PE exhaust tips better than the standard black tips because they are welded on and not slip on. Not a fan of slip on exhaust tips.

I ran over a piece of wood in my first 1er and it hit one of the tips and knocked it loose. Wouldn't fit tight after that. Even tried bending the clip back but no luck. Had to buy a new exhaust tip. That would never happen with welded on tips

I would like the welded on PE exhaust tips but think they would look better in black chrome. That would be the best of both worlds to me.

angler · 03-04-2017, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dsocold

can either of you plz post a pic of this lol..

i have the pe and i thought the tips are bigger and they stick out more and that you wouldnt be able to wedge the black tips on it not that i would anyway as im a fan of the clean laser cut sharp lookin PE tips

I hated the chrome look. Took the car to a muffler shop they cut the PE tips back a couple of inches and the stock black tips fit right on. Guy charged me 10 dollars to do it. Best mod that money can buy! LOL

Dackelone · 03-07-2017, 09:26 PM

I wasn't sure IF I was gonna like the chrome look... but after a few days it grew on me. Plus it looks "different" and over here in DE... people don't really know which model car I have until I leave them in my dust, on the Autobahn.

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1N4ttro Private First Class 39 Rep 171 Posts Drives: 09 135i Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: MA iTrader: (0)	Does M Sport = Sport Exuast My 1 has a nice tone IMO, it is not as loud like an M car but not far from it. I have always assumed I have the sport exhaust simply because of how it sounds compared to other regular 335s & 535s. In my visits to this forums I have noticed that so many people want to add the sport exhaust and suddenly made me wonder if I even have it. Is there a way to know for sure? I checked VinDecoder and nothing was listed, not sure if exhaust type would be listed. I have not had a chance to listen to another 135 to compare so I was wondering if I have it or not. Thanks. __________________ 2009 135i M Sport • 6MT • Space Gray/Terracotta • JB4 • 261s Last edited by 1N4ttro; 03-03-2017 at 01:10 PM..
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mr.fabulous Captain 218 Rep 893 Posts Drives: Women Crazy Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Florida Gulf Coast iTrader: (0)	I believe black tips == MSport, chrome tips == PE? __________________ 2011 135i MSport 6MT AW/black, 72Kmiles, bone stock, moneymoneymoneymoneymoneymoneymoneymoneymoneymoney I LOVE THIS CAR
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Stewy_604 First Lieutenant 77 Rep 310 Posts Drives: 2011 E82 135i M-Sport Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Vancouver, B.C. iTrader: (0)	The black tips are just part of the Shadowline package, your 135i does not have the PE from factory. That said, from what I understand, the 135iS gets the PE installed prior to delivery. __________________ 2011 BMW 135i M Sport Space Grey - BMS JB4, VRSF 3.5" catless DP, Berk exhaust, BMS intake, ER CP, Eibach Pro-Kit, H&R spacers, black kidneys, Blacklines, LUX angel eyes 2014 BMW X5 xDrive 35d M Sport Mineral White - MPBK w/ F85 rotors & Carbotech pads, ACS Springs/Links, iND reflector deletes, iND black roundels, MP black kidneys, M50D grille inserts 2007 Suzuki GSX-R 750 - too much to list
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MightyMouseTech Major General 4342 Rep 6,196 Posts Drives: 13 135i 6MT LeMans Blue MSport Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Ottawa, Canada iTrader: (0)	If the tips are welded on, it is the PE, if the tips are just slip on, you have the standard exhaust. Although, I took my black stock tips and jammed them over the PE exhaust tips. So, there is that.
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Esteban Major General 51267 Rep 7,236 Posts Drives: a slow car fast Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	Black chrome slip on tips are standard on the 135i.
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Dackelone European Editor 10759 Rep 22,992 Posts Drives: N54 e82 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bayern, Germany iTrader: (1)	You can also look under the car(at the muffler box/tips) and look for a vacuum hose... IF the hose goes to a servo... you have the standard exhaust. IF the hose just slips onto a welded port on the exhaust pipe... you have a PE. Here is a pic of the standard vs PE exhausts... stand exhaust with black tips... PE with chrome tips. On the left exhaust... notice the servo flap(lower black part) the PE do not have this servo. Some guys will pinch or remove the vacuum line on a standard exhaust - to get a slightly deeper exhaust note. It is commonly referred to as the "golf tee mod". PE... PE build plate welded onto the muffler box... you can read this plate from under the car... The PE also has a y-pipe to delete the resonator before the exhaust muffler. Maybe some did this to your car ? Here are my stock N54 mids with the PE's y-pipe laying ontop of it. The PE's y-pipe deletes the factory rear resonator. __________________ Dackel's European Delivery Museum Guide
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PepE92M3 Captain 47 Rep 676 Posts Drives: 12 E92 M3 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: True North iTrader: (1)	Wondering if a PE exhaust from 128i will fit the 135i and if it is will it sounds the same, thanks. __________________ 12 E92 M3 Competition package, lights package, navigation system professional, exterior mirror package, dct Retired: 12 E82 135i, 11 E88 128i, 05 E46 M3, 07 E92 328i, 07 X3 3.0is, 88 E30 325i, 84 E30 318i
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Esteban Major General 51267 Rep 7,236 Posts Drives: a slow car fast Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	I don't really like chrome either. Especially chrome wheels. I like the PE exhaust tips better than the standard black tips because they are welded on and not slip on. Not a fan of slip on exhaust tips. I ran over a piece of wood in my first 1er and it hit one of the tips and knocked it loose. Wouldn't fit tight after that. Even tried bending the clip back but no luck. Had to buy a new exhaust tip. That would never happen with welded on tips I would like the welded on PE exhaust tips but think they would look better in black chrome. That would be the best of both worlds to me.
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