|
|
|
08-08-2017, 12:20 AM | #23 | |
Supreme Galactic Commander (one galaxy over...)
697
Rep 1,784
Posts |
Quote:
I may just get the spacers and test fit them. I just don't like how close the wheel is on the inside. It looks visually like there is room at the fender for 10mm. That is a good warning at the turner site, thx for pointing that out. I don't want to go less than 10mm because 10mm is the smallest with hub-centricity. I am leaning toward the BMS spacers. Any manufacturer you think is better than others? They all seem pretty close (Turner, ECS, BMS, etc) in apparent quality and price.
__________________
Best,
Andy '12 E82-PS2,Stoptechs,Clubsports+M3 bits,Accusump,Wagner DP+EVO III FMIC,ERCP,BMS Intake,Mason Strut Bar,Wedge Tune |
|
Appreciate
0
|
08-14-2017, 11:19 PM | #24 |
Supreme Galactic Commander (one galaxy over...)
697
Rep 1,784
Posts |
Put BMS 10mm spacers on the front. They seated perfectly and look agressive (front and rear wheel outer edges seem lined up now). Definitely am close to the line on the fender now, but no rubbing lock to lock and much more space on the inside, which is what I wanted. Need to get some camber dialed in in the front (how much negative can you get stock?) to make sure there is no rubbing when the shock is fully compressed. Anyone else running 10mm spacers on the front?
__________________
Best,
Andy '12 E82-PS2,Stoptechs,Clubsports+M3 bits,Accusump,Wagner DP+EVO III FMIC,ERCP,BMS Intake,Mason Strut Bar,Wedge Tune |
Appreciate
0
|
08-15-2017, 08:33 PM | #25 | ||
Private First Class
82
Rep 131
Posts
Drives: 10 135i
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Manchester, NH
|
Quote:
|
||
Appreciate
1
AndyW697.00 |
08-15-2017, 09:13 PM | #26 | |
Private First Class
82
Rep 131
Posts
Drives: 10 135i
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Manchester, NH
|
Quote:
Preliminary results: The Rear 245 is gently rubbing the fender LINER under heavy compression (due to the wheel offset - a 245 will NEVER rub in the REAR using the correct, staggered offset). This is a non-issue for me personally. So far zero Front rub under compression in a straight line, with or without the spacer. At full lock the 245 with the 5mm spacer (up front) is rubbing the fender liner (thanks to added caster from M3 arms). At 1/2 to full lock AND under minor-moderate compression, the R Front with the 5mm spacer is also rubbing the fender (inner edge, I am NOT rolled). I will write up a full thread as soon as I finish my field work (including track use) in the next couple weeks. From my years of searching and communication with Apex/Tire Rack/Turner I have found that info is hard to come by regarding square setups for the non-M 135i. |
|
Appreciate
1
AndyW697.00 |
08-16-2017, 11:10 AM | #27 |
First Lieutenant
221
Rep 361
Posts |
If I was going to do a street setup for a 135i but wanted to dramatically improve the handling, I would be going with an 8.5" wide front with a 245, and a 9.5" rear with a 265-275.
It will still require suspension modification, but is much less aggressive than trying to fit a 255 in the front which is truly a challenge even on an 8.5" wide wheel (which is a bit narrow) and honestly does not acceptably fit for a street car on a 9.0" wide wheel in my opinion. -Mark (who runs a WIDE 255 RE71R front tire on his 1 series - and it rubs).
__________________
2011 BMW 128i - Check out my STX build thread!
|
Appreciate
1
AndyW697.00 |
08-23-2017, 07:34 PM | #28 |
Supreme Galactic Commander (one galaxy over...)
697
Rep 1,784
Posts |
So, in conjunction with getting TPMS installed on my new wheels, I got an alignment done at a local shop with a decent reputation. Unfortunately they (like all shops local to me, apparently) will not adjust "out of spec" so I told them to push camber to the limits, if possible. Turns out they left it cambered out of spec in the front in my favor anyway, as, apparently, the front was already cambered at ~-1.0, -0.9(??). This didn't make sense to me based on everything I have read on this forum, but unless their machine is messed up that's what it is (alignment pin is still there BTW). I should probably check to see if I have M3 control arms or something... I did buy the car used.
Good news is that the car drives fine. They did push the rear camber out and actually let me have 0.1 over on one side. I also noticed they used the spec for the 135is (mine is an M-sport). Not sure if that matters. This should be fine for the last two track days of the year...next year I may spring for a custom suspension setup, including camber plates and figure out how to do all this myself... Results:
__________________
Best,
Andy '12 E82-PS2,Stoptechs,Clubsports+M3 bits,Accusump,Wagner DP+EVO III FMIC,ERCP,BMS Intake,Mason Strut Bar,Wedge Tune |
Appreciate
0
|
08-23-2017, 10:43 PM | #29 |
Colonel
236
Rep 2,643
Posts |
1/8" toe in on the front is quite a lot. Its about 0.14 degree per side. For track use, zero front toe is a good starting point. More front toe in = More understeer.
Rear alignment is good. Rear looks like max camber and 1/8" toe in, which is ideal IMO. |
Appreciate
0
|
08-24-2017, 07:56 AM | #30 |
Supreme Galactic Commander (one galaxy over...)
697
Rep 1,784
Posts |
I would have preferred zero toe for the front as well, but they wouldn't go "out of spec" on that parameter, so I am at the min spec. Maybe as I build a relationship with this place they will become more pliable. They were willing to leave the front camber OOS, after all.
__________________
Best,
Andy '12 E82-PS2,Stoptechs,Clubsports+M3 bits,Accusump,Wagner DP+EVO III FMIC,ERCP,BMS Intake,Mason Strut Bar,Wedge Tune |
Appreciate
0
|
08-26-2017, 10:54 AM | #31 |
Supreme Galactic Commander (one galaxy over...)
697
Rep 1,784
Posts |
New wheels and tires worked great on the track! Still got some chunking on the edge of the fronts (need more camber!), but no visible rollover like i was getting with the stock RFT's. Now just need to wear them out so I can put on RE-71's...
__________________
Best,
Andy '12 E82-PS2,Stoptechs,Clubsports+M3 bits,Accusump,Wagner DP+EVO III FMIC,ERCP,BMS Intake,Mason Strut Bar,Wedge Tune Last edited by AndyW; 08-27-2017 at 10:16 PM.. Reason: Added pic |
Appreciate
0
|
08-27-2017, 11:16 AM | #32 |
Private First Class
21
Rep 120
Posts |
I know that I a a bit late but I went with the style 68 wheels on my 135i. They do clear the factory brakes. I wrapped them in falken azenis rt615k tires. 225/45 up front and 255/40 in the rear. Total cost for this set up was about $700. I am still on stock suspension and they do not rub anywhere.
|
Appreciate
0
|
08-28-2017, 10:45 AM | #33 |
Boost
1361
Rep 3,698
Posts
Drives: 135i M-Sport
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Valley of Silicon, CA - United States
|
To everyone talking about 255s rubbing up front, they're absolutely right... I have actually irreversibly damaged my bumper where it mounts to the fender from a bad rub (took the corkscrew real deep) and had to add some additional bolts to hold the bumper in place. Also, this happened with about -3* camber up front.
__________________
F80 M3 TrackBoi, Z4MC GarageBoi, 1M Clone StreetBoi
|
08-30-2017, 07:34 PM | #34 | |
Major
429
Rep 957
Posts |
Quote:
Personally, I don't care about the bumper. You can't even notice the worn down spot. Hpde is where steady state g's really roll the chassis and wear the bumper down. It doesn't happen as much if at all with street driving. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
08-30-2017, 08:22 PM | #35 | ||
Boost
1361
Rep 3,698
Posts
Drives: 135i M-Sport
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Valley of Silicon, CA - United States
|
Quote:
__________________
F80 M3 TrackBoi, Z4MC GarageBoi, 1M Clone StreetBoi
|
||
Appreciate
0
|
Post Reply |
Bookmarks |
|
|