Why did BMW do nothing for small overlap crash test?!

[aozer]

Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

I would avoid them because I'm paying attention. I'm former motorcycle rider for years and now a track junkie and take it as my responsibility to prevent accidents. Accidents take 2 people screwing up.

we got a badass over here

[1MOREMOD]

Nah just try to take responsibility for myself rather that hope someone else will do it for me.

[OUGrad05]

Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

Nah just try to take responsibility for myself rather that hope someone else will do it for me.

Derp...

My wife got rear ended two weeks ago, she didn't screw up. Friend of mine got T boned when a guy went through a light that had been red for 5 seconds...he didn't screw up.

Also BMW fixed this with the 2016 refresh.

[1MOREMOD]

Assume everyone is trying to kill you. Makes driving exciting and walking around at night too.

[Blksnowflake]

Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

I would avoid them because I'm paying attention. I'm former motorcycle rider for years and now a track junkie and take it as my responsibility to prevent accidents. Accidents take 2 people screwing up.

As a paramedic who has seen a myriad of accidents, this statement is unequivocally not factual. I've seen first hand results of people pulling out and getting t-boned, the oncoming driver could not react in time.
When you have the right away on a two lane county road that has a 60mph limit, and a driver pulls out from an obstructed view side street, the result is spectacular.
Same goes for texters steering into and around and toward unsuspecting drivers at the last minute. When you are going 50+ mph and a vehicle veers into your direction, assuming you were the badass situationally aware person you are but hit the shoulder and its wet grass causing a slide into a tree/light pole that is 20 yards away....that is unavoidable.
Another accident I've seen. Family at a stop light waiting for the green light, gets hit directly from the 11 o'clock by an F-150 truck that was trying to beat his yellow light and lost control in the intersection. The couple was DOA.

These are unfortunate events accidents that don't require two people per se. There are plenty of examples I can keep reciting. Most of my recent calls have been of the texter and elderly who make irreversible mistakes upon unsuspecting drivers.

You have an invulnerable attitude because you seem to fancy yourself a hyper vigilant professional. I beg to guesstimate not knowing you or who you are that any Formula 1 driver is leagues ahead in terms of reaction time and reflexes, yet they make an F1 racers cockpit to offer the most incredible protection scientifically available....why, because Hamilton and Vettel are idiots who look forward to crashing? Oh Really.

Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

Assume everyone is trying to kill you. Makes driving exciting and walking around at night too.

I have also been a motorcycle rider and even though my car has all the driving gizmos I still look over my left shoulder before I merge. I understand your point. I now work in an environment that requires extreme situational awareness and hyper vigilance and we understand that this state can only be sustained but for so long. 24 hrs of N'ring uses multiple drivers, why, fatigue, mentally more than physically.
So this brings up the issue, not everybody is as cool and hi-speed as you. So these protective measures are in place for the masses, general population, and for those unforeseen events.

As a motorcycle rider you at least should be aware of the overwhelming number of accidents that skilled and responsible motorcyclists are victim to, why, because of some"one" else.





It's disturbing that so many in this thread take the approach that why would this be necessary, why would you crash in to a wall...silly...obviously, obviously, this is to protect from "accidents".

[Blksnowflake]

My post is not a personal attack by the way. I'll take your word that you can avoid and will be able to prevent any accidental situation you find yourself in.

So my post is to highlight the fact that the rest of the general public does not have you r reflexes, skills and vigilance.
There are mothers on the roads with little ones in the back, dogs that do shit while driving, people lighting cigarettes, playing with the radio, etc etc. It only takes one a tenth of a second for your eyes, hands and feet to not be on the same sheet of music.

[Blksnowflake]

This was my Evo X. Without going into details, I can assure you I didn't "crash on purpose". There was zero compartment intrusion.
I walked out of that without a scratch. In fact, the only complaint I had was a swollen lip from the airbag.

[1MOREMOD]

Your points are well taken. My intention was more to point out that most accidents happen due to negligence on both parts. If you aren't vigilant enough and take it serious enough you are allowing an accident partially to happen before you even turn the key. Calling it an accident allows both parties to absolve themselves from responsibility but something on both sides could have been done. Like getting rear ended. I don't watch the car in front at all.almost the guy I'm worrying about is behind and look for an out and so on. It's like a accidental discharge of a weapon they almost don't exist it's actually a negligent discharge thru some fault of the operator. It gets blamed on the gun to absolve the person.

[mysterio]

Originally Posted by IK6SPEED

I agree, and the actual solution to fix this is relatively simple, i have a 2014 328i and a 2015 228i, the two cars have the same basic front end chases design (frame rails, upper apron, etc) the difference the two series has is that there is a very thick wide metal bar that gets bolted to the side of the frame rail and wraps around to the footwell part of the chassis where it is bolted on to the footwell, Its very thick and heavy duty. This piece is what helps the 2 series do much better in the small over lap crash test, i took off my fender liner in the 328i and the frame rail design is the same and so it the footwell part of the chassis but it did not have this reinforcement, BMW could have easily added this reinforcement plate to the f30 chassis but i guess it decided not to. part # 27 in the picture

Was curious about this bracket and whether it would fit on earlier gen F30s. Found a cheap one on ebay that even included the bolts. Turns out there is one threaded boss at the bottom which was on early cars at least. Test car is a 3/13 production. A new rear fender liner is needed to clear the bracket and I believe a bolt instead of one of the plastic nuts.

Obviously 4/5 structural bolts not being in isn't ideal, but it's better than nothing.