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      08-30-2010, 06:28 AM   #507
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I am going to give you a clue.... The 1M powertrain is a Hybrid.

And when I mean Hybrid do not think of the current meaning of "Hybrid" - ie Alternative power , Electricity etc.... and use the original meaning of hybrid.

" When Two seperate entities become one".

Remember BMW evaluate every idea to determine what is the solution?
An N54 with Valvetronic?
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      08-30-2010, 06:49 AM   #508
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I am going to give you a clue.... The 1M powertrain is a Hybrid.

And when I mean Hybrid do not think of the current meaning of "Hybrid" - ie Alternative power , Electricity etc.... and use the original meaning of hybrid.

" When Two seperate entities become one".

Remember BMW evaluate every idea to determine what is the solution?
It is a Turbo S54B32, making about 370HP ??? I wanted to be "extra" creative! rofl.
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      08-30-2010, 06:54 AM   #509
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It's not. It's the same dimpled aluminum that you see toward the center of the car in the foreground. It's not getting as much light from the flash, so the dimples don't seem as pronounced, and the aluminum doesn't seem as bright. These two effects combine to mimic the look and color of carbon fiber.

But it's not -- it's aluminum.
+1. Its not CF. SAVE IT FOR THE ROOF!
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      08-30-2010, 07:32 AM   #510
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+1. Its not CF. SAVE IT FOR THE ROOF!
You all are blinded. It cant not be CF due to the fact that its a part of the car that actually is gonna be seen. I have yet to see BMW use a "CF looking" part on the exterior of a car. CF around the valance makes sense too. Its what most tuners do. And since this teaser car may be a fully loaded with Competition, it might have extra CF add-on. I dont see how anyone can look at that picture and say no to CF. The aluminum heat shield under there car ( center of that larger pictures ) clearly shows that the Aluminum dimples or whatever are much larger squares than the tightly woven CF.
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BF says it is a modified N54. Well how is that really Hybrid?? It is the old engine tuned to make more power...which every other 135 owner in this forums do it with JB3
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      08-30-2010, 08:01 AM   #512
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BF says it is a modified N54. Well how is that really Hybrid?? It is the old engine tuned to make more power...which every other 135 owner in this forums do it with JB3

The N54 PLUS something else could make it a hybrid. Lets say this car is an N54. Do you honestly think it would be cheap or easy for all 135i drivers to duplicate whatever BMW is doing? I would not think so. At the end of the day we're going to end up with a MUCH stronger starting point. Would u rather JB3 a 135i or a 1M? Exactly. Would I rather them rush something together with the N55 or do something with the N54? I choose the N54. They've had 4+ years to know the ins and outs of that engine.
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Being the first to reveal the actual name awhile back 1series M on this same forum... I'll give you the engine details and you can judge for yourself later. Based on the N54 with larger turbos and the HP will be ... you ready for this? 354 HP Info provided by same person to reveal name to me.

Believe it or not...
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the power levels on the BMW modified N54 motors in the 335is make that car a very exciting to drive. If there are stock power levels around 350+ with a corresponding increase in torque, the 1 M coupe will be an fantastic drive, and earn a place in my garage!
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Being the first to reveal the actual name awhile back 1series M on this same forum... I'll give you the engine details and you can judge for yourself later. Based on the N54 with larger turbos and the HP will be ... you ready for this? 354 HP Info provided by same person to reveal name to me.

Believe it or not...
lol. I'll write this down. Guessing 1M wasn't exactly brain science though. In terms of the N54 being underrated, this could actually mean 380hp.
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lol. I'll write this down. Guessing 1M wasn't exactly brain science though. In terms of the N54 being underrated, this could actually mean 380hp.

LOL... I did not simply guess 1m as many of you did awhile back...I clearly stated 1 series M and the very first to even mention the word series in between the 1 & m ...have fun looking through all my posts.
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An N54 with TWO twin-scroll turbos? Oh my...
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      08-30-2010, 08:29 AM   #518
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Another detailed revealed .
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      08-30-2010, 08:32 AM   #519
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Nice spot! Did you take that photo scott?
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http://www.bimmerfile.com/2010/08/30...-modified-n54/

I must say that, since the partial unveiling, there are some keywords and phrases thrown about which I don't like, to be honest.

-Very limited R&D time;
-Very limited R&D resources;
-Tweaked N54 used because it was simpler and easier;
-Power more in the 35is range (335-ish), no longer a dedicated M-engine;
-Maximizing use of the existing parts bin, again, because of limited M-time and M-resources, and to spec the car to a pricepoint.

Plainly, I don't like what I'm hearing...
I understand and respect that this is a limited production run, in terms of volume and runtime.
But I can't have that influence my purchasing decision.
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      08-30-2010, 08:36 AM   #521
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Nice, cheers! I think most of us were hoping it'd have those lush E90 M3 style mirrors
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The N54 PLUS something else could make it a hybrid. Lets say this car is an N54. Do you honestly think it would be cheap or easy for all 135i drivers to duplicate whatever BMW is doing? I would not think so. At the end of the day we're going to end up with a MUCH stronger starting point. Would u rather JB3 a 135i or a 1M? Exactly. Would I rather them rush something together with the N55 or do something with the N54? I choose the N54. They've had 4+ years to know the ins and outs of that engine.
But there are those out there that wouldn't want the N54 due to the HPFP issues--me being one of them. I just went through that debacle of an experience, and I won't be jazzed by the 1M if it has the N54...I am kind of over this engine...

I was actually hoping SCOTT's prediction of a modified N55 would come true--it seems to have better gas mileage and less HPFP issues (at least what I have seen).

I can't see the N54 as being the basis of the next M3 either, again based on SCOTT's earlier comments to that effect.
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Another detailed revealed .
Such a tease SCOTT.
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http://www.bimmerfile.com/2010/08/30...-modified-n54/

I must say that, since the partial unveiling, there are some keywords and phrases thrown about which I don't like, to be honest.

-Very limited R&D time;
-Very limited R&D resources;
-Tweaked N54 used because it was simpler and easier;
-Power more in the 35is range (335-ish), no longer a dedicated M-engine;
-Maximizing use of the existing parts bin, again, because of limited M-time and M-resources, and to spec the car to a pricepoint.

Plainly, I don't like what I'm hearing...
I understand and respect that this is a limited production run, in terms of volume.
But I can't have that influence my purchasing decision.

Simply having limited resources and strict parameters to work within doesn't imply diminished quality, to me. It simply means that the project presented some unique developmental and engineering challenges. We'll see if they were sucessful or not; I won't cast judgement until the full reveal.

My main gripe is the price tag - do I really want to pay $50K for a 1 Series? Tough call.
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The naming was related to the fact that BMW did not want the name to be the same as the first M car BMW made, the iconic M1 BMW made from 1978-1981.

This is the car I am talking about.
Oh ok thank you. I've heard of the M1 before but never looked into it. I love this forum, it is so informative.
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LOL... I did not simply guess 1m as many of you did awhile back...I clearly stated 1 series M and the very first to even mention the word series in between the 1 & m ...have fun looking through all my posts.
Um - but the car isn't called the "1 Series M."
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It is a Turbo S54B32, making about 370HP ??? I wanted to be "extra" creative! rofl.
I was thinking this when I read Scott's intel, it was more a want than anything else, something straight outta Horse Power Freaks, with a body to match. Because right now, it's starting to look like the hot chick that has no brain nor personality to go with the body. She get you hooked with the body...same thing here....I'll wait for the second "date" (reveiling of the 1M) to confirm my suspicions...
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Another detailed revealed .
Nice update.

Can you shed some light on the newest debate as to whether or not the rear diffuser is carbon fiber?
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