DISA Intake Manifold with Evolve Software Install/Review

smellthebeans · 07-03-2013, 08:59 AM

I had it out on the Autobahn on the way home. The Software is really starting to adjust to the manifold. It's nice to have reserve power and torque available: at 115-120Mph.

I am waiting for good weather and a Sunday morning to really drop the hammer. I was thinking why did I wait 6 months to do this?

BMW should have offered this as a ZHP package like on the E46 330i.

andrey_gta · 07-03-2013, 02:22 PM

Congrats! I agree with you BMW did some badge engineering...

Could I ask your reasons for AA remote tune box vs a german option.

smellthebeans · 07-04-2013, 02:13 AM

The decision for Active Auto was because they literally speak the same language as me.

While I do speak some German and many Germans speak some English I did not trust that German tuners would be familiar with actual software or program settings that I suspect are unique to North America. Several locals I have talked with at cars shows and meets did not realize that BMW builds N52s with a different no stage intake manifold.

BMW BLOG also had a write up here
Showing the proof with dyno showing a 25Hp increase at the wheels.

http://www.bmwblog.com/2013/04/29/bu...take-manifold/

I am not sure what exactly the car is putting out. But, having previously owned a E90 330i my E92 330i feels even better. Combined with the Signature exhaust the sound track is nothing short of fantastic.

631twentyeighteye · 07-05-2013, 03:09 PM

just sent evolve and email, I think I'll be picking up the tune before headers so I don't have a CEL when I put the headers on.

Obioban · 07-05-2013, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 631twentyeighteye

just sent evolve and email, I think I'll be picking up the tune before headers so I don't have a CEL when I put the headers on.

The header tune is different from the non header tune, FYI!

TheSt|G · 07-05-2013, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Obioban

The header tune is different from the non header tune, FYI!

Yup. There is actually tuning done to further take advantage of the headers.

631twentyeighteye · 07-05-2013, 05:50 PM

Yeah i think i'm going to get the header tune, and just run it until i can get the headers on. Unless theres a small fee(<$100) to upgrade to the header tune when i eventually get them.

Obioban · 07-05-2013, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 631twentyeighteye

Yeah i think i'm going to get the header tune, and just run it until i can get the headers on. Unless theres a small fee(<$100) to upgrade to the header tune when i eventually get them.

I'd ask when you order.

andrey_gta · 07-05-2013, 11:48 PM

yes the fee is there to update your tune.

mapleridge · 07-10-2013, 01:49 AM

Hi guys,

i tried emailing evolve and got no response. has anyone dyno'd with their tune and headers to see the gains?

aggsy · 07-10-2013, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mapleridge

Hi guys,

i tried emailing evolve and got no response. has anyone dyno'd with their tune and headers to see the gains?

I'm planning on getting the tune very soon (albeit on a 125i) and seeing if I can tee up a before and after dyno run with it. If all goes well im hoping it happens in the next 1-1.5 weeks.

TheSt|G · 07-10-2013, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mapleridge

Hi guys,

i tried emailing evolve and got no response. has anyone dyno'd with their tune and headers to see the gains?

Headers or DISA?

mapleridge · 07-10-2013, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSt|G

Headers or DISA?

headers. I have a 323i. It already has the 3 stage mani. I have headers on. Just wondering if anyone dyno'd with their header tune to see what the gains were.

Dafttt · 07-10-2013, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mapleridge

headers. I have a 323i. It already has the 3 stage mani. I have headers on. Just wondering if anyone dyno'd with their header tune to see what the gains were.

How are you enjoying your custom headers?

My interests have peaked again.

mapleridge · 07-10-2013, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Daft Auto

How are you enjoying your custom headers?

My interests have peaked again.

Best mod I have done for the money. I spent a lot on exhaust work. I haven't tuned yet but the gains were noticeable and measurable. For the money, I am very pleased.

631twentyeighteye · 07-13-2013, 04:14 AM

After a long time of trying to decide between evolve and AA, i went AA because of the sale and local support. Had a few issues trying to order through evolves website, so i took it as a hint to go against the tide and try something different. Plus saving $300 made me feel a bit better about it. i'm also going to try a set of Mapleridge's collectors/headers. In an ideal life i'd go for supersprints, but they're so damn expensive and i just can't justify the cost. If i can pay half price and get half gains, i'm content with it, though i suspect they'll have more than that.

Dafttt · 07-13-2013, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mapleridge

Best mod I have done for the money. I spent a lot on exhaust work. I haven't tuned yet but the gains were noticeable and measurable. For the money, I am very pleased.

Manifold is in, intake's on order, and currently weighing tune options before AA deal ends July 21st. Do or die, and my smog isn't due for over a year...

Ugh, you're not making this easy! How do you think it would measure up with a performance exhaust?

Obioban · 07-13-2013, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 631twentyeighteye

After a long time of trying to decide between evolve and AA, i went AA because of the sale and local support. Had a few issues trying to order through evolves website, so i took it as a hint to go against the tide and try something different. Plus saving $300 made me feel a bit better about it. i'm also going to try a set of Mapleridge's collectors/headers. In an ideal life i'd go for supersprints, but they're so damn expensive and i just can't justify the cost. If i can pay half price and get half gains, i'm content with it, though i suspect they'll have more than that.

Ha, my car used to have an AA tune and cheap headers. Now it has an Evolve tune and SS headers.

At some point I learned it's significantly cheaper and better to do things right the first time. But I hadn't yet at that point!

Dafttt · 07-13-2013, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Obioban

Now it has an Evolve tune and SS headers.

On your 128i or M3?

mapleridge · 07-13-2013, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Daft Auto

Manifold is in, intake's on order, and currently weighing tune options before AA deal ends July 21st. Do or die, and my smog isn't due for over a year...

Ugh, you're not making this easy! How do you think it would measure up with a performance exhaust?

I don't think the sound will increase by a large amount. I heard ss headers and performance exhaust an a 330i and I don't remember any droning. SS would be louder than my manifolds because of the tube design. Obiwanchen has a remus exhaust I believe and I think he said it is louder but not something unbearable. Even if one has to smog, it is pretty easy to switch out headers after you have done it once.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obioban

Ha, my car used to have an AA tune and cheap headers. Now it has an Evolve tune and SS headers.

At some point I learned it's significantly cheaper and better to do things right the first time. But I hadn't yet at that point!

The manifolds I had made are not "cheap" in quality. The gains on the dyno were quite strong as well. They also bolt right up and keep o2 sensors in stock location. With the manufacturing capabilities that SS has. A majority of their price is markup.

TheSt|G · 07-13-2013, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obioban

Ha, my car used to have an AA tune and cheap headers. Now it has an Evolve tune and SS headers.

At some point I learned it's significantly cheaper and better to do things right the first time. But I hadn't yet at that point!

Most people have to learn the hard way.

horsepower_and_hounds · 07-13-2013, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 631twentyeighteye

After a long time of trying to decide between evolve and AA, i went AA because of the sale and local support. Had a few issues trying to order through evolves website, so i took it as a hint to go against the tide and try something different. Plus saving $300 made me feel a bit better about it. i'm also going to try a set of Mapleridge's collectors/headers. In an ideal life i'd go for supersprints, but they're so damn expensive and i just can't justify the cost. If i can pay half price and get half gains, i'm content with it, though i suspect they'll have more than that.

Did you do the $500 AA tune with the Simon package?

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smellthebeans Lieutenant Colonel 87 Rep 1,555 Posts Drives: LPCs Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: San Antonio iTrader: (2) Garage List 1990 325i [0.00]	The decision for Active Auto was because they literally speak the same language as me. While I do speak some German and many Germans speak some English I did not trust that German tuners would be familiar with actual software or program settings that I suspect are unique to North America. Several locals I have talked with at cars shows and meets did not realize that BMW builds N52s with a different no stage intake manifold. BMW BLOG also had a write up here Showing the proof with dyno showing a 25Hp increase at the wheels. http://www.bmwblog.com/2013/04/29/bu...take-manifold/ I am not sure what exactly the car is putting out. But, having previously owned a E90 330i my E92 330i feels even better. Combined with the Signature exhaust the sound track is nothing short of fantastic. __________________
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631twentyeighteye Colonel 198 Rep 2,239 Posts Drives: 08 335i Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Long island iTrader: (7)	Yeah i think i'm going to get the header tune, and just run it until i can get the headers on. Unless theres a small fee(<$100) to upgrade to the header tune when i eventually get them. __________________ 08 e93 335i MT
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mapleridge Banned 153 Rep 2,638 Posts Drives: E90 N52 AT Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Vancouver, BC iTrader: (4)	Hi guys, i tried emailing evolve and got no response. has anyone dyno'd with their tune and headers to see the gains?
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