BMW Performance Power Kit

wu2x · 04-07-2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Add1ct

rumors about the gains are true- does this mean that it puts out more than what they advertise it puts out?
I just saw the Dinan dyno of a stock 335i coupe that put out 332 FWHP!!!, I think with this we should have a solid 340-350 fwhp car, sound about right?

No.

Add1ct · 04-07-2009, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Evolved

What is fwhp? Can't be front wheel horse power, since these cars are rwd.

flywheel hp, should have just said crank, oh well

Evolved · 04-07-2009, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Add1ct

flywheel hp, should have just said crank, oh well

I have to say I've never seen it abbreviated that way before.

BForbes · 04-07-2009, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Add1ct

flywheel hp, should have just said crank, oh well

Yeah, dont do it like that again..lol I think all of us thought Frontwheelhp at first.

ronnyek · 04-07-2009, 05:13 PM

maybe bmw will take a hint and consider pricing the setup a bit more reasonably... 20hp for say like 600-700 bucks I think would be sufficient, as for the additional radiator.. .do we really need it?

Add1ct · 04-07-2009, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ronnyek

maybe bmw will take a hint and consider pricing the setup a bit more reasonably... 20hp for say like 600-700 bucks I think would be sufficient, as for the additional radiator.. .do we really need it?

that additional radiator is going to hike the price I feel, but if that's the only additional thing with the software then in may come in at a reasonable price like the e46 zhp cam and software retrofit is!

Thud · 04-07-2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Add1ct

that additional radiator is going to hike the price I feel, but if that's the only additional thing with the software then in may come in at a reasonable price like the e46 zhp cam and software retrofit is!

The additional radiator will be required with the software upgrade, I'm sure. Because that's how they'll need to justify the high cost of it the package.

Raflekt · 04-07-2009, 05:51 PM

Will be an option to choose only radiator?? I dont need the tune jejeje

adc · 04-07-2009, 06:44 PM

My crystal ball says there will also be a 5-8 hour installation charge - so the total IMO will be over $2k.

Edit: Plus the software upgrade charge, an easy 5 hour additional - when my 335i went in for reprogamming (several times), each time it took 5 hours.

Hope I'm wrong...

Evolved · 04-07-2009, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by adc

My crystal ball says there will also be a 5-8 hour installation charge - so the total IMO will be over $2k.

Edit: Plus the software upgrade charge, an easy 5 hour additional - when my 335i went in for reprogamming (several times), each time it took 5 hours.

Hope I'm wrong...

It took 5 hours to upgrade the software? That's insane, what all is involved?

mchaskell · 04-07-2009, 08:01 PM

If they price this package like a Dinan tune (w/oil cooler) I think we are looking at a minimum of $3,500+ with labor to install. Hope BMW NA decides to be competitive and price it lower than Dinan or the dollar equivalent of the euro price. For me anything over $2,500 installed is a deal breaker.

adc · 04-07-2009, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Evolved

It took 5 hours to upgrade the software? That's insane, what all is involved?

A highly coreographed software dance where every single little module on the car that has software gets its own upgrade, then everything is cross-checked for version correctness.

That's the official line. In reality, who knows?

In practice, sometimes the upgrade fails after a few hours, sometimes the ECU crashes, in rare cases it's ever been known to get damaged. As someone who writes software for a living, I can tell you without the slightest doubt that BMW in general suffers from software architecture/design crappiness. I am absolutely amazed that a company of BMW's stature can tolerate such bad software.

But if you don't believe me, ask your dealer how long it takes to get a new software uploaded into the car...

Evolved · 04-07-2009, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by adc

A highly coreographed software dance where every single little module on the car that has software gets its own upgrade, then everything is cross-checked for version correctness.

That's the official line. In reality, who knows?

In practice, sometimes the upgrade fails after a few hours, sometimes the ECU crashes, in rare cases it's ever been known to get damaged. As someone who writes software for a living, I can tell you without the slightest doubt that BMW in general suffers from software architecture/design crappiness. I am absolutely amazed that a company of BMW's stature can tolerate such bad software.

But if you don't believe me, ask your dealer how long it takes to get a new software uploaded into the car...

Why would I not believe you?

Your answer seems good to me.

Not to mention I don't think a Mitsubishi dealer would know how long it takes to upload new software on a BMW.

adc · 04-07-2009, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Evolved

Not to mention I don't think a Mitsubishi dealer would know how long it takes to upload new software on a BMW.

The level of competence with some of these BMW dealers lately, you never know.

ronnyek · 04-08-2009, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mchaskell

If they price this package like a Dinan tune (w/oil cooler) I think we are looking at a minimum of $3,500+ with labor to install. Hope BMW NA decides to be competitive and price it lower than Dinan or the dollar equivalent of the euro price. For me anything over $2,500 installed is a deal breaker.

anything over 750 is a deal breaker for me

Si-M240i · 04-08-2009, 11:42 AM

Got an update in the UK and they said it will be available from July, but no pricing yet

Carpimp · 04-08-2009, 12:28 PM

The latest update i got from my support is somewhere around may-june. Not before...

geegee · 04-20-2009, 12:02 PM

Carpimp - Do you have the BMW part number? I admit in advance that I have not visited the BMW site trying to find it for the umpteenth time. I am ordering a 135i directly and would like to have this installed at the factory along with some other BMW Performance parts.

Carpimp · 04-20-2009, 12:18 PM

I have not got a part number for it yet. But i´ll keep mailing my support about it to get the number and price on it as soon as possible.
But BMW now says that it probably will be launched in july.

matt · 04-20-2009, 02:21 PM

you can find the part # on the bmw hp.
i also posted it somewhere in this thread.

release will be july+, more like august.

JiveTurkey · 04-20-2009, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by matt

you can find the part # on the bmw hp.
i also posted it somewhere in this thread.

release will be july+, more like august.

Matt, you have one on order right? I was was told release was sometime in June. I know they already have it out on some of there demo cars. A source told me that sometime in May BMW will be at Hokenheimring with there performance power kit, tearing it up. They wouldn't give me a date. You know anything about this, hook me up so I/we can go spy on them.

E82tt6 · 04-20-2009, 05:08 PM

Honestly, I'd consider decent bucks for the cooling alone.

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adc Major General 2790 Rep 6,783 Posts Drives: 2018 F80 M3 ED Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: MD/DC iTrader: (12)	My crystal ball says there will also be a 5-8 hour installation charge - so the total IMO will be over $2k. Edit: Plus the software upgrade charge, an easy 5 hour additional - when my 335i went in for reprogamming (several times), each time it took 5 hours. Hope I'm wrong...
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mchaskell Traveler 8 Rep 173 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Never where I want to be. iTrader: (0)	If they price this package like a Dinan tune (w/oil cooler) I think we are looking at a minimum of $3,500+ with labor to install. Hope BMW NA decides to be competitive and price it lower than Dinan or the dollar equivalent of the euro price. For me anything over $2,500 installed is a deal breaker. __________________ 135i SGM, Grey w/Grey Poplar interior.
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