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12-05-2014, 02:48 PM | #353 | |
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From what I understand about the +FM addictive: is that it is only effects the noise that the LSD friction clutches produce at low speed(full lock) turns(like when parking or reversing. I don't really know IF it(+FM fluid) allows the clutches to work slower or now. People have only said that the +FM fluid will reduce the noise and not effect performance ie: lockup of the LSD. As for the key fob not being in sync with the car... perhaps your car has CA and you don't insert the fob into the slot very often? I've heard that the key fob's don't always have up to date info - from the car - like you'd think. So I am not surprised by your fob being out of sync with the car. Maybe @e36addict or @Drivehard or @MightyMouseTech can lend their expertise to this subject. Dackel
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12-05-2014, 04:20 PM | #354 | |
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My understanding was that the CA key fobs used a non rechargeable battery and therefore shouldn't be put into the slot anyway? Mine has the CA and I've changed the fob batterys once they're standard non chargeable items so I've never put my fob into the slot since I've had the car. |
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12-05-2014, 04:26 PM | #355 | |
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going off topic some more...
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So now lets get back to 1M diff and trans oil stuff. Dack
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01-21-2015, 06:18 PM | #356 |
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I see that the service bulletin shows a transmission fluid change along with a rear diff fluid change every ~50K KM, any recommended duration for lower mileage cars? I didn't see any records showing either was flushed and replaced for mine, and at 23K KM transmission definitely felt more notchy than when I picked up the car at 16K KM. Only found the quantity for the transmission fluid (2L) but not the diff fluid - anybody knows the going price for stock fluid from dealer vs Pentosin FFL-3 in North America (west coast)?
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01-22-2015, 02:02 AM | #357 | |
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01-22-2015, 01:04 PM | #358 |
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Yeah, I won't hit 45K mile (~75K KM) in the next 3 years, and not changing transmission fluid for almost 7 years just doesn't fly with me - I will go get some fluid and have it changed by independent shop.
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02-05-2015, 10:03 AM | #359 |
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FYI, to add to the knowledge base of this thread:
Just completed oil service - 83-21-2-365-946 / 83 21 2 365 946 is a valid part number for BMW's old 07-51-0-017-866 SAE 5W-30. My parts dept thinks the change is due to BMW no longer using Castrol products.
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Well BMW has done it again.
I had my car in for Oil change last year (off my own back) car was around 14500miles and is now 15500miles ODO and when my clutch was replaced a couple of weeks ago i asked about the oil they had topped up with, they told my LT2! Obviously the wrong stuff so, i checked my service history from a year ago and what did they put in....Yes....LT2.. I e-mailed them and straight away they put their hands up and said they will change it free of charge, very honourable of them! However, when i questioned the damage the wrong oil may have done they wouldn’t answer. I kept emailing and eventually they said that it wasn’t the wrong oil (LT2) they had put in it was most likely a billing error and LT 5 was in the gearbox -where have we heard this before!- they will still change the oil just to be 100% sure that im running LT5. I told them i appreciate the offer of the oil change but i want some guarantee that the oil has not affected or will not affect the gearbox synchro, gear coatings in the future...I’m still waiting on a reply to this. Does anyone know how detrimental this may be to the gearbox? |
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04-16-2015, 02:23 PM | #362 |
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Well, here we are, and the fluid drama continues. I hate to open this can yet again, but I'm just trying to confirm what got put in my diff the other day, so here goes...
Part number on the invoice is 83-22-9-415-961 - my SA says it SAF-XJ w/o friction modifier - parts desk says it's a 55L drum of something, but can't tell me which fluid and can't give me the 1L equivalent (called a couple dealers) - online searches for the part number reveal very little, but I found some posts which say this is the 100ml(!) equivalent of 83-22-1-470-080 which has been superseded (apparently) by 83-22-1-407-870. And to add final insult to the confusion, I found info that said the above 470-080/407-870 could be SAF-XJ or could also be MSP/A which is the "new" fluid used in the latest M3/M4/M5. I probably shouldn't be worried, but because I can't find any record of what this part number relates to, I just want to be sure I didn't end up with tranny fluid in my diff. FUN! |
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04-16-2015, 03:00 PM | #363 | |
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Like I posted eons ago... every dealer uses a GENERIC part number for the oil they bill out to customers. That's because they buy the oil in bulk... and they need to figure out a way to bill each customer. I would ask your dealership again what type of oil is in that barrel. SAF-XJ is just fine for the rear diff. Most dealers are using the +FM oil so that customers don't complain about diff noises due to the lsd clutches locking up. As long as your diff never had +FM... you will be ok. IF your car had +FM at one point... you will need to keep using +FM fluid.
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04-24-2015, 09:11 AM | #364 |
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Hi guys, can anyone provide the current oil we should be using now by part numbers and name? I'm going in to get my diff, gearbox and engine oil replaced and need the correct parts so I can request them specifically. It's gotten confusing to tell what's needed in this long thread.
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04-24-2015, 05:28 PM | #365 | |
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The new BMW twin power 0w40 oil
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04-26-2015, 11:07 PM | #366 | |
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SAE 5W-30 BMW Longlife-01. Part number is 83 21 2 365 946. The person at the parts desk looked up the previous part number for me (07 51 0 017 866) and confirmed that part number cross references to the new one. Dack, is there a way to update Metak's first post to include updated part numbers? I also noticed the new oil is sold in liters, while the previous oil was sold in U.S. quarts (at least here in the United States). Just a heads up so you don't accidentally overfill. Pictures below. |
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04-27-2015, 01:40 AM | #367 | |
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04-27-2015, 05:30 PM | #368 |
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Thanks for the update guys, I'm taking my car in for an oil change in a couple of weeks..hopefully up here in Canada we got the same new stuff from Shell
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04-28-2015, 09:36 AM | #369 |
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Hey guys,
Just gave my dealer a call to see what oil they will be using in my 1M in a couple of weeks, this is the response: Castrol EDGE Professional TWS 10W-60 Full Synthetic Part #: 83-12-2-219-730 Can someone confirm this is good to go? |
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The 1M has a N54, so it takes the SAME OIL as a 135i does. Namely either Castrol LL1 rated oil or the new Shell LL1 rated oil. You can use any of these grades: 5w30, 5w40, 0w40 & 0w30. Most go with the 0w40 because it offers the widest outside temp range. What ever oil you use make SURE it says: "BMW Approved LL1" or "Long Life 1" rated. The correct oil is still listed on PAGE ONE of this thread. Go have a look. Dackel
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Thanks Dackel!
The rep actually emailed me to say he made a mistake with the part number (ya right...). I told him the correct one from page 1 and they said that's what they will use. I will double check when I go for the service to make sure! |
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Hello all, I took to closest dealer for check up and oil change and was incredibly frustrated when they do not know what the car is and act like they know it all and that I'm being silly or over-cautious. Needless to say I took the car from there and having it transported (by the dealer) to a BMW dealership about 40 minutes away. The SA promised to watch it carefully and asked me to send him an email with exactly the services it needs. I've read through this thread and tried my best to piece together what is currently the best for the 1M. The car has 19,399 miles on her. What do you guys think of this email to the SA?
Hi Eric, here is some initial info on my 1 Series M Coupe. It was a Limited production Motorsport model, with 335hp high-output version of N54 twin-turbo engine. Due to the low production of only 740 in the U.S., the car calls for very specific Maintenance Schedule and specific fluids and part numbers. I am requesting the following services due per BMW’s schedule: 1. Gearbox Fluid flush and change: Manual transmission fluid MTF-LT-5 (P/N 83 22 2 167 666) 2. Differential Oil: Specially formulated rear differential oil, (BMW part number 83-22-2-282-583) SAF-XJ 3. Engine Oil: “M Twin Power Turbo” SAE 0W-40 or SAE 5W-30 BMW Longlife-01. Part number is 83 21 2 365 946. (please make SURE it says: "BMW Approved LL1" or "Long Life 1" rated) What do you guys think?? Thanks!!!
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