08-29-2010, 10:38 AM | #397 |
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08-29-2010, 10:54 AM | #398 |
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Haha, lucky for you. I'll be trying to keep my eyes open hitting refresh the forum page
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08-29-2010, 11:01 AM | #399 |
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I don't think only offering a 6MT will hurt sales that much. If it has a good tranny and the engine is awesome, people will buy it. I see a bunch of FD2 Civic Si's running around and Honda only makes them in a 6MT too. This car will attract some enthusiasts for sure.
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08-29-2010, 11:47 AM | #400 |
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What we need to understand is BMW is a business who's primary goal is to be profitable and provide a high return on capital.
Do you think they would come out and say, "We are not offering M-DCT because it will outperform the M3 and destabilise the M3 sales."? Of course NOT! They will feed us stories like "Costs too Much" or "No Time to Develop" or "Trying to Reduce Weight". We all know that the development time and cost excuse is NOT very convincing, since as mentioned earlier, DCT is offered with the N54 in the Z4 which is a RWD configuration. Reduce Weight Argument? Well there are many simple ways to reduce weight before considering gearbox as an excuse. Options, Nav, Lightweight Materials etc. Basically, they will add DCT to the 1M once the NEW M3 is on the market and the goal post has been moved. I'm sorry, but this is plain internal politics and we get the bad end of the deal. |
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08-29-2010, 12:49 PM | #404 |
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What's the difference between the DCT and the M-DCT? The (N55) 135 has a DCT sure, but would ///M put a "regular" DCT into an M car?
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I might be wrong, but I thought the difference had to do with the software or programming
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08-29-2010, 02:36 PM | #411 |
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08-29-2010, 02:59 PM | #412 | |
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Besides, the 135i is available with DCT, hence i honest don't think "Space" is an issue. Fact is, BMW playing the 911 vs Cayman game!! |
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08-29-2010, 03:13 PM | #413 | |
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The initially released non discounted MT versions of the 1M are already going to start to get close to the discounted M3s. That would spell suicide for the 1M. People already think the 135i is too costly, especially a fully optioned one. If the DCT 1M costs as much as a manual transmissioned M3, BMW will lose, since the 1M won't be as attractive. I really do believe it has to do with price structure getting closer to the M3. If it was performance related, all BMW would have to do keep that from happening is limit the power output of the engine, be it the N54 or the N55. That would keep a DCT 1M from getting close to the M3.
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08-29-2010, 03:25 PM | #417 |
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I believe it's called a 1M because it would come with the current 35 engine. If it had its own engine they would have called it a M1. Just my thought on the naming.
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I'm willing to bet that the "lights" change that Bimmerfile is alluding to will be new taillights with thick light tubes similar in design to the E90 LCI, E92 LCI, X5 LCI, F10, and F01.
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