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08-25-2010, 03:15 PM | #23 |
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Aside from the engine's first oil change when there is likely to be more particulates from the initial break-in, it may be quite possible to go 15k between oil changes without serious consiquences. This was an issue discussed early on when this forum was relatively new and BMW's oil change plan was first understood. There were a number of synthetic oil analysis reports posted. Basically, synthetic oil is capable of performing for many tens of thousands of miles so the problem is not the oil breaking down. The question is whether the engine will use/lose oil and can the filter keep the oil acceptably clean. All we basically need is for someone to run an analysis of their oil at a 15k interval to see if it's any worse than oil at a 3k interval. I'm sure BMW has done this analysis 8 ways to Sunday and isn't about to be surprised by millions of lease returns coming back with damaged engines. What we don't know is how much damage might they will be willing to risk in exchange for lower service costs? Some analysis reports would settle the issue.
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^ in addition to that you have to wonder how much gas ends up in the oil.
with direct injection there is a % of gas that ends up diluting the oil. so after 15k miles it could be pretty high
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Im sorry but this is Bull Shit BMW just like to Dick with people.... I have had 3 or four letters from them about recalls NOW THIS SHIT..... I keep telling my self never again... But an M3 would be a nice new car....
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m3 is not the top of the line performance car anymore, they lost focus and let people like ford catch up
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PS- thats one of the reasons why I did not buy a benz...
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I don't know about that...other than certain ford models (Shelby gt) that have always been top of the line...I am sure I would choose the m3 over most cars.
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08-27-2010, 01:16 AM | #36 |
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AFAIK, this low mileage oil change thing wasn't even advertised anywhere and was usually done as a "courtesy" by the dealerships. You're still getting your free oil changes and other *scheduled* maintenance, as long as your car says you need them, and that's all BMWNA ever really promised you (regardless of wheather or not we think it's often enough). Welcome to the recession, by the way, where companies are doing their best to trim excess spending and things like courtesy, non-scheduled service go out the window.
As for the recalls, when was your car built Stoutnj89? Because my car is only a month older than yours and has been recalled exactly once, for the excess B-pillar insulation. The taillight thing is only supposed to be affecting older builds. You say you've had four recalls in four months? For what?
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Yes, four years or 50,000 miles, whichever comes first.
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I change my oil and filter every 10,000km, even though BMW suggest longer intervals.
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they use the same interval mile logic on turbos, non turbo's, di, and non di engines
that alone should tell everyone what they need to know
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Ohhh... But no Im I spoiled brat and BMW makes really quality cars...
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Notice he didn't say English major. I can't believe you all are complaining, YES its a breach of contract, YES it somewhat sucks but the reality is they were really only paying for 3 oil changes anyways. Sorry about your $300 bucks but you did just buy a BMW.
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True.. Again no big spelling issues... Its a forum... I got the point across..
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So you get penalized for taking action to protect the car and reduce future warranty costs??? I couldn't care less what BMW or Castrol say, 1 year is too long between changes, maybe I'm just used to classic cars but I'm not comfortable with with 24,000KM a year between changes.
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