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I defended them because I thought they were an honest competent professional shop. After the whole tune debacle you saw that I disappeared from the forums. I didn't continue defending them. I disassociated myself from Gintani and moved on. When someone approached me at the track asked my opinion I gave them my honest answer.
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was probably trouble in paradise. *Many of us have noticed this same pattern with Gintani customers after the deals go bad. *The only thing that's really hard to get out of my mind is how strongly you defended Gintani and the personal things you said against some other guys who tried to do what you're doing now -- tell their own personal experiences and try to warn the public. * Your experience is already bad enough so let's not rehash the past. **But have you thought of contacting any of those other guys and maybe try to burry the hatchet? One of those guys said he saw you on the track at MFest a while back and said you were doing really good. *We both hope that you get your car sorted out and back on the track because it sounds like you really enjoy being out there...I know I do. |
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Regarding me burying the hatchet? I never had one to bury. The guys at Gintani were my friends so when ESS fan boys attacked them I defended them. I would do the same for you or anyone else if you were my friend. I wasn't sponsored by Gintani or being payed by them. Again this was all done out of loyalty. If I knew then what I know I would have never defended them. I truly regret that.
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Did I say you got free parts? So, that's all you took from my post? Awesome. I said what I had to say. If you can't put it together, then sorry for you.
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Edit: I'm not going to get into this. Above is all that needs to be said.
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Let's focus on the real culprit here.
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People have focused on the culprit. And this dude comes in and starts defending them like they were his grandma. Now, he is the guy singing his sad song, only he wasn't some random customer that doesn't know anything about this stuff. He was right there by their side like a guard dog. And like I said, it happens all the time. I'm just pointing that out. No remorse. If no one knows that Gintani/OE is garbage then, they should research more. I would have never let them touch my car. I read that whole debacle on M5board a long time ago but didn't realize it was the same guy as the OP that was defending them. God the irony. And if he never got anything for free then that means he paid for the OE tune. Which according to him was a "surprise". But in the quote I posted of him, he clearly loved it enough to challenge another tuner with it.
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Regarding me defending them. Yes I defended them because I thought they were a competent professional shop. I had no idea that my car had been turned into a science project. Once I got my car back from the dealer I distanced myself from them. I didn't come back and continue to defend them like you make it seem. Even recently someone asked me my opinion of them and I gave them an honest answer. I told them about my experience. Me challenging Eloy was another story. Eloy was throwing Gintani and OE under the bus for his own gain. That's a fact. He had his own agenda. At that time I was still friends with guys at Gintani I wasn't going to let him or anyone trash them for their own gain. Sorry if you were my friend I would do the same thing for you. It's called loyalty. Regarding me not showing any remorse. I do. At the end of my original post I said I truly regret defending them.
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And I wasn't bashing you, I was making an example out of the whole situation. Blind faith can create blind loyalty. You just couldn't fathom them doing shady shit when you were on their team, but lo and behold. Again, this happens a lot on car forums. I applaud you for coming forward, but I highlight you as a common problem with people too close to companies.
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Not surprised! Sorry, but you made your bed and now you have to sleep in it. Sometimes karma just bites you in the ballz. I guess you should consider yourself lucky that it was not worse. At any rate, I hope everything gets sorted out and you are back on the road and happy!
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which Alex is this, not Alex from AlpineSS is this?
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No its Alex from Gintani. Alex from AlpineSS has nothing to do with any of this.
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Bro .... Your Bugging me the F out with the defending skit .. What were u to Gintani their mascot Aka super hero with a big G on your chest ?
Let's get to the point ... If you don't know about someone or something don't comment nor reccomend or defend for that matter cause someone else can innocently pay the price due to your miss guidance... And you do owe people you rebuttled in regards to gintiny bullcrap an apology cause they were the ones who actually knew what Gintani was about and yOu didnt yet you defended them ...... I forgive you pumpkin , lesson learned move on |
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Why did you tell people your tune was so great when you now admit it was shit the first day you drove it. And now you want people to trust you ?
You pretty much mislead the public while you were attacking them just because they were being honest where in fact you wasn't ... Pretty sad and Discusting , goes to show what Kind of guy you are ! Last edited by m33; 11-18-2011 at 12:59 AM.. |
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AlpineMS I assume? I don't know AlpineSS...
Alex@Alpine is one of the best vendors I have ever had the pleasure of doing business with. I have an OE Tune on my M3, and I'm more than satisfied with it. Monster135...why is your username so damn familiar? IIRC..i think I got DPE rims from you a while ago??? Don't want to mention your name publicly, but it starts with a N?
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You're right it is a public forum so please feel to leave the thread if you don't like what I posted. No one is here to cater to you or owes you an apology. Got it?
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