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It's interesting to see your thought process, since it in a lot of ways mirrored my own. There were differences-- I was getting a sunroof either way, as that's my #1 complaint with the Mustang GT I'm daily-driving now, for example. But in most ways, I'm right there with you on your thought processes. |
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03-10-2013, 05:57 PM | #24 | |
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The 128i is the only car BMW makes at this point that I want, and it's just awesome-- the LAST of traditional BMWs. Lightweight 17s with real (non runflat, high quality) tires, DISA, and a DISA enabling tune, and it's easily the best non M car BMW has ever made for my wants. Better than the M cars in a lot of ways as well. SS headers are an awesome, too, if you're willing to go off stock.
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Sounds like you didn't disable the CDV. For the header gains, here you go: Quote:
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600-800hp in a 1 series will be a completely ruined car.
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03-10-2013, 10:18 PM | #26 | |
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with the dyno there.. since it's measuring flywheel power, is it hooked up to an engine brake? as in, the engine is not in the car?.. it doesn't make sense anyway.. blue line is 220hp then red is 280?? i don't know of any N52's that are 220bhp?.. and if it's NOT measured on an engine brake it cannot be accurate :/ that's... that's amazingly heavy, sounds like pretty poor design from BMW! :O there are already 135i's with high 5xx low 6xx hp and none appear ruined .. i've been in high 4xx and they're great.. have to remember it's still a 3300lb car full weight, there are plenty even lighter with more power |
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03-11-2013, 02:28 AM | #27 | |
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I thought about going with 17s, but I admittedly decided to go with 18s as a nod to aesthetics. That said, the 18" wheels and tires I'm adding will weigh 6.75 lbs. less at each corner than the stock 17x7" wheels with lousy 205/50-17 RFTs, so it's all upside. Given my goals for this car, I doubt I'll make any engine mods, but I'm still gathering info out of curiosity. |
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03-11-2013, 06:31 AM | #28 | |
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03-11-2013, 07:52 AM | #29 | |
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SS's dyno can measure drivetrain power loss when it's winding down. They do a pull up (blue), pull down, and then add them together-- the result is engine HP (light red). They then do it again with the exhaust mod (in this case headers) and repeat (dark red). 20 hp from the SS headers seems conservative to me. They're going from collectors with integrated (and huge) cats to actual headers. It certainly feels like more than 20. We'll have independent dynos soon enough.
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03-12-2013, 03:14 AM | #31 | |
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plus again, 220bhp was never offered in N52B30 so very inaccurate but ok thanks for informing me |
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03-12-2013, 05:56 AM | #32 |
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I don't think you read that fully-- 220 was the rear wheel ps.
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Check out my dyno thread to see how the intake manifold affects the 128i
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As you can see from my signature, I did very much the same thing.
My thinking: • MT - nothing more needs to be said • I won't buy a car without xenons (once you've had HID, you can't go back) • HK stereo is one of the best value factory audio upgrades around • Sport package is a "necessity" for the seats alone • Premium package - OK $3,600 is a lot for Homelink but you get some other stuff too My car turned 66,666 miles this morning. Like the OP I plan to order a new one soon (exact same specs in Mineral Grey) in order to have the last MY BMW with NA I-6 and hydraulic steering. Also, I don't want my next car to have an iPad sticking up out of the dashboard.
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17s are the best.
Because its just just about weight. Inertia is a much more important parameter, which forum types tend to forget. Also for a 128 MSport is a must, its suspension and the stellar seats for 128s. |
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Yeah, I know I could save a few more pounds but I'm probably going to make a sole concession to aesthetics just because. For me, the math is as follows:
Stock = 48.3 lbs. per corner (17x7 Style 206 + 205/55-17 Goodyear NCT) 18x8 Square = 41.8 lbs./corner (18x8 Apex Aero 7 & 225/40-18 Michelin PSS) = 6.5 lb. savings per corner (oops, I said 6.75 before) 17x7 Square 1 = 39.2 lbs./coner (17x7 BBS RG-R & 225/40-18 Michelin PSS) = 9.1 lb savings per corner 17x7 Square 2 = 38.5 lbs./corner (lightweight 17x7s & 225/45-17 Michelin PSS) = 9.8 lb. savings per corner I'll look at the 17x8 rim options to see if I like anything, but I really dig those Aero 7s. Last edited by simianspeedster; 03-16-2013 at 02:37 AM.. |
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Steering wheel is also a massive bonus of MSport. The thickness feels so good, at least until you upgrade it. Quote:
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We think alike; I LOVE my 128 6MT, spt pkg. Had it on the track for BMW HPDE and it performed flawlessly. 17's on mine b/c its a USA car. Very unfortunately have 2 BMW's and 1 will have to go this spring. I think 5 cars for my wife and I is OK but she thinks its 1 too many.
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I skipped the M-Sport package (Sport is no longer available) because the sport seats were available as a separate option and I'm swapping my suspension. I have M-Sport now on my 335i and, while I generally like the shifter and steering wheel, I don't dislike the stock equivalents. If I end up wanting something different, I'll change 'em out, but I think that's unlikely. Also, I seem to be one of the rare people who prefers the chrome window trim (again, old school), especially with my chosen color, and I prefer a light headliner, so no M-Sport for me and no regrets! So, in nearly 67,000 miles, any major issues to speak of? Last edited by simianspeedster; 03-16-2013 at 01:59 AM.. |
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I'll look into those, but they're fairly expensive at around $675 each. For my weight calculations above, I was assuming 16.5 lbs. per corner for 17x8" rims -- Tire Rack has several 17x8" options in that weight range, though I'm not particularly fond of any of them.
Any other 17x8" suggestions in the same style realm? I've been enamored with BBS rims since I was a kid, but they're quite pricey. |
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With wheels, you're doing well if you get 2 out of 3. There is no 3/3:
Light Cheap Strong Choose your poison :P
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They are a hugely better choice than pretty much anything else at the price point for sure.
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