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11-13-2011, 08:25 AM | #23 |
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oh god here we go again! This financial year ain't gonna be good.
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At the end of the day I figure the setup I am envisaging should only cost a couple of hundred and give me some piece of mind that the engine is not getting Too hot |
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Thanks, depending on the track day I might do both at the same time
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11-13-2011, 06:40 PM | #27 |
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Has anyone who has gone from a non 1M N54 - 335i in my case - to the 1M noticed that the 1M runs a little hotter, even with the extra radiators? The 1M however hardly raised a sweat on the track whereas the 335i's needle starts to go north even in just spirited road driving. Weird.
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The N54's run hot. I'm currently using Mobile 1 0W 40. Last edited by JB4-335; 11-13-2011 at 06:52 PM.. |
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11-13-2011, 07:08 PM | #30 |
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I don't have experience with my N54 on the track but my oil temps range between 110-120 which is normal. Even if i drive it hard it doesn't go past 120.
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11-13-2011, 08:17 PM | #31 |
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On my way home from advan the other week in traffic I was sitting just on 120 for a good 45 minutes and after 30 minute cool down/heat soak. I jumped back in and stomped on the loud pedal and after 5 minutes got a temp warning. So I figure at the track not gonna be any better.
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I've done 25k and this is the first Oil temp warning, but I was 'sounding' out the DP's for a good 45 minutes befoe the oil temp warning, didn't get a limp just a warning
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11-13-2011, 09:56 PM | #35 |
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I hit 130 on the track, but never temp warning and engine still feels strong. I always do an engine oil change afterwards. On my previous oil change I used Mobile 1 0W-40 and normal driving temps never went past 110. I thought DPs would help since they get rid of an exhaust restriction.
Recently however, I got my complimentary oil change from BMW and I believe they use Castrol Edge 5W-30, and I've been hitting 120 just from normal driving. Oil definitely has an effect, and I'll be changing mine again before the next track day.
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the ar design oil cooler kit is nice, as is the Stett Stage 2 oil cooler kit that I have installed. IMHO, the new dual core Evolution Racewerks setup is perhaps overkill, based on the results from my Setrab single core application. It certainly appears to be a very well engineered kit, utilising quality components. However given that it is almost double the cost of the Stett kit, I would be inclined to spend the additional cash on an upgraded radiator, rather than dropping similar coin on a dual core set up. Just my 2 cents... Last edited by JD75; 11-14-2011 at 05:26 AM.. Reason: Typo |
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11-15-2011, 08:54 AM | #37 |
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I've seen 137 degrees on track at QR (read off my perf wheel), but I probably missed reading the peak temp. I want better cooling.
Gazz, you higher temps on road and lack of temp rise at the track is probably down to thermostat rating & extra cooling capacity respectively. How is your beast now?
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Hi Tim, thanks for the info'. Makes sense.
The beast is still in hospital. Had a long wait for a particular part. Parts finally arrived last week however the shop has just started work and found that they hadn't included a part in their list. AAAARRRGGHH. BTW dealing with Tischer, AKA getbmwparts.com, has been a total joy. Friendly prompt service, super cheap relative to Aus' stealer's prices and reliable. Every part from an extensive list was delivered in perfect order with no wrong parts. That's the first time that's ever happened to me. You do get screwed by UPS at this end. Still works out way way cheaper to buy ex US. |
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I have spoken to Pete about what would be required to fabricate a workable solution for our excessive oil temps. We are pretty much on the same page and as I suspected an oil cooler kit comprising quality components ain't gonna' be cheap. Unfortunately a quality core, thermostat, oil lines and fittings etc. are worth a few bucks and them some. Pete has already priced up the key components and to be honest the money charged for the quality kits currently on the market, is not that outrageous. However with some engineering knowhow and a few contacts in the industry I suspect Pete can fab up a kit that is top shelf, whilst retailing it at a price that will keep the Ebenezer Scrooges happy. Last edited by JD75; 11-16-2011 at 04:35 AM.. Reason: Typo |
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that is a nice find, thanks for the info. Where did you come by the data? Whilst a "limp mode" may be avoided depending upon how hard the car is driven and the ambient temperature, I would NOT want to see my oil temp exceed 125 degrees Celsius and climbing, when tracking the car Prior to my upgrades I had seen my oil temp hit 120 and change whilst sitting in heavy traffic, that is not really a concern. Under this situation the engine is under no load, it is not being stressed and revved to 6,000 + RPM. The Redline Water Wetter is a good product. I have not used it personally but I have a close friend that is heavily involved in the WRX club of NSW and from all reports, it is considered a worthwhile mod. Motul also have a similar product known as "MoCOOL". They claim it can reduce engine water temperature by as much as 15 degrees Celsius. Last edited by JD75; 11-16-2011 at 05:36 AM.. Reason: Typo |
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