So, how many of you are getting the 128i?

JayM · 07-20-2007, 02:39 PM

I am looking for a convertible in the $30K-$35K price range, which I am hoping is where the 128 would fall (and hopefully in the low $30K range). I would like a 135 convertible but I have a feeling it will be much more than $35K, most likely around $40K.

bimmerfile · 07-20-2007, 03:04 PM

I'm probably going for the 128i Cabrio assuming the base MSRP will be $48k - $50K Cdn.

OTOH, if the 135i Cabrio MSRPs for LT $55K - then I'll definitely upgrade.:headbang:

Devon K · 07-21-2007, 01:15 AM

I doubt that efficient dynamics shot above is of a Sport-package-equipped 128i - the tires look far too high profile and the wheels too small.

I'm leaning towards the 128 with the Sport package. I don't like the tacked-on "extra" spoiler on the back of the 135, want lighter weight, and as the 128 is going to be slightly sub-6 second anyway that is plenty fast enough for me. I already find myself getting too fast too quickly in my current car with its 8 second 0-60.

Jay Leno once wrote about the frustration and eventual boredom inherent in driving cars with hyper levels of performance on public roads (and he should know); you can never get them anywhere close to their limits before you are in license-losing territory, so you either completely miss the enjoyment of exploiting their potential or you drive in paranoid/dangerous mode. Of course if you can track the car regularly or have somewhere nearby where you can safely drive at 9/10ths, great, but if you live in a large urban area like I do that's pretty unlikely...

Devon K · 07-21-2007, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by carnut

I'm probably going for the 128i Cabrio assuming the base MSRP will be $48k - $50K Cdn.

Woah - unless they are charging a $13-15k CAD premium for the 'vert your prices are way too high here - the 128i coupe should be mid-30K...

docdoowop · 07-21-2007, 06:23 AM

128i. Not overly concerned with hp...just lusting for the bodystyle and concept of a smaller BMW.

redwood · 07-21-2007, 11:00 AM

The looks of the 128i aren't appealing to me, though I'm sure its lighter weight will still make it a fun car to drive. If I don't fit in a 135i, will have to figure out something else to get next year, be it a used BMW or a completely different brand *gasp*

bimmerfile · 07-21-2007, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Devon K

Woah - unless they are charging a $13-15k CAD premium for the 'vert your prices are way too high here - the 128i coupe should be mid-30K...

I'm going to assume a little less of a diff between the 128i Coupe & Cabrio than there is between the 328i Coupe & Cabrio mainly because of the 3-Series metal roof and associated mechanical/electronic stuff that goes along with those roofs, soooo:
The MSRP on the 328i Coupe is $43,600 Cdn and $56,300 for the 328i Cabrio for a price diff of $13K

The MSRP on the 335i Coupe is $51,600 Cdn and $66,300 for the 335i Cabrio for a diff of $14,700.

So, I'm guessing an approx $9K -$10K diff between the 128i Coupe & Cabrio.

I'm also thinking the 128i Coupe will come in at approx $6K less than the 328i Coupe for a estimated MSRP of approx $37.5K.
That would put the 128i Cabrio in the $47K MSRP range.

I'm O.K. with that. If it's over $50K I'd take a good look at the upcoming Audi A3 quattro Cabriolet and even the next gen Z4 (or even the MB SLK 280).

Devon K · 07-21-2007, 05:41 PM

The semi-consensus over on the CDN pricing thread is about $35k for the 128 coupe - we are assuming that this model compares more to the sedans than the coupes (it looks like a 2 door sedan after all) so that will put it at the price of the 323 sedan... less size, but bigger engine.

Maximus Decimus · 07-22-2007, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by larryn

The most recent equivalent is the M Tech body kit on the ZHP, not available as a factory option for any model other than the 330i, 330Ci, 330Cic ZHP models. It was never available to the 325 models from the factory.

Of course you could get it installed as a dealer installed add on or aftermarket, but you're prob looking at $3k-4k painted and installed, which likely puts you in the 135i range.

The M body kit will be standard on the 135i, however the ///M interior goodies will be optional (Germany). The entire package will be optional on the diesel models offered here. I was guessing the a similar offering could be had on the 128i in the US. I took a picture of the German ordering guide, I don't have a scanner.

larryn · 07-22-2007, 07:53 AM

I meant for the US Market. Sorry. Germany never had the ZHP, but could always order the M pieces. You guys even get Individual (I'm jealous).

bimmerfile · 07-22-2007, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Devon K

The semi-consensus over on the CDN pricing thread is about $35k for the 128 coupe - we are assuming that this model compares more to the sedans than the coupes (it looks like a 2 door sedan after all) so that will put it at the price of the 323 sedan... less size, but bigger engine.

Well, I hope I'm wrong and the consensus opinion is correct. If correct, that'd put the 128i Cabrio in the $45K range and the 135i Cabrio in the low $50sK range..:headbang:

herro · 07-22-2007, 10:55 PM

Any specs (0-60, etc.) for the 128i (aside from hp/torque)? It seems as if the brochures and bulk of the media information available on the internet is for the 135i... strange when considering the 128i will most likely account for the bulk of US sales. Is the 128i so much uglier than the 135 that BMW is keeping it under wraps? Any other confirmed pictures of an undisguised 128i?

Devon K · 07-23-2007, 12:49 AM

I read somewhere 6 sec 0-60 for the 128i. You can probably couint on shaving .2-.3 sec off the 328i manual tranny times...

ibeam81 · 07-23-2007, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by muffinman

Any specs (0-60, etc.) for the 128i (aside from hp/torque)? It seems as if the brochures and bulk of the media information available on the internet is for the 135i... strange when considering the 128i will most likely account for the bulk of US sales. Is the 128i so much uglier than the 135 that BMW is keeping it under wraps? Any other confirmed pictures of an undisguised 128i?

It looks like the 128i is a US only vehicle. The rest of the world is getting the diesels and the 135i. That's probably why there's not too much info. Look at the 328i times. The 128i should be comparable and probably a little faster.

bimmerfile · 07-23-2007, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by muffinman

Any specs (0-60, etc.) for the 128i (aside from hp/torque)? It seems as if the brochures and bulk of the media information available on the internet is for the 135i... strange when considering the 128i will most likely account for the bulk of US sales. Is the 128i so much uglier than the 135 that BMW is keeping it under wraps? Any other confirmed pictures of an undisguised 128i?

Yah, probably...

bimmerfile · 07-23-2007, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ibeam81

It looks like the 128i is a US only vehicle. The rest of the world is getting the diesels and the 135i. That's probably why there's not too much info. Look at the 328i times. The 128i should be comparable and probably a little faster.

Canada is getting the 128i - and I don't think we're really considered to be part of the U.S. ---- yet.. :wink:

ibeam81 · 07-23-2007, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by carnut

Canada is getting the 128i - and I don't think we're really considered to be part of the U.S. ---- yet.. :wink:

Apologies!!! :wink:

I meant NA, but let's face it the US has wanted Canada for years. Afterall we did invade you twice only to get soundly trounced both times.

bimmerfile · 07-23-2007, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ibeam81

Apologies!!! :wink:

I meant NA, but let's face it the US has wanted Canada for years. Afterall we did invade you twice only to get soundly trounced both times.

Yah, that's because we had injuns fighting on our side - at least until we screwed them over...

123d · 07-23-2007, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ibeam81

Apologies!!! :wink:

I meant NA, but let's face it the US has wanted Canada for years. Afterall we did invade you twice only to get soundly trounced both times.

You probably only want the West... don't touch the East :wink::wink:

hector · 07-23-2007, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by carnut

Canada...I don't think we're really considered to be part of the U.S. ---- yet.. :wink:

i say why not skip the middleman and just directly become part of Mexico?

Devon K · 07-24-2007, 08:31 AM

More seriously, BMW does sometimes differentiate between the Canadian and US markets - for example, we have an additional model available here: the 323i, which is priced several thousand lower than the 325i but drops 30hp - a more "euro" configuration.

redbird73 · 07-24-2007, 10:47 AM

The 128i fits my budget and needs perfectly. I currently have a 2005 MINI Cooper S with 190HP, so the 128i will be a nice upgrade and a great track car. It seems the closest to the 2002. I can't wait to see official pricing and the build configurator on the BMW website!

I also plan to do Euro delivery on this car. What are the best weather months to lap the Ring, so I can plan for a good delivery time?

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JayM Enlisted Member 9 Rep 46 Posts Drives: Join Date: Jul 2007 iTrader: (0)	I am looking for a convertible in the $30K-$35K price range, which I am hoping is where the 128 would fall (and hopefully in the low $30K range). I would like a 135 convertible but I have a feeling it will be much more than $35K, most likely around $40K.
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bimmerfile Colonel 623 Rep 2,067 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW X2 F39 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: GTA, Canada iTrader: (0)	I'm probably going for the 128i Cabrio assuming the base MSRP will be $48k - $50K Cdn. OTOH, if the 135i Cabrio MSRPs for LT $55K - then I'll definitely upgrade.:headbang:
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Devon K Lieutenant 38 Rep 570 Posts Drives: TBD Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	I doubt that efficient dynamics shot above is of a Sport-package-equipped 128i - the tires look far too high profile and the wheels too small. I'm leaning towards the 128 with the Sport package. I don't like the tacked-on "extra" spoiler on the back of the 135, want lighter weight, and as the 128 is going to be slightly sub-6 second anyway that is plenty fast enough for me. I already find myself getting too fast too quickly in my current car with its 8 second 0-60. Jay Leno once wrote about the frustration and eventual boredom inherent in driving cars with hyper levels of performance on public roads (and he should know); you can never get them anywhere close to their limits before you are in license-losing territory, so you either completely miss the enjoyment of exploiting their potential or you drive in paranoid/dangerous mode. Of course if you can track the car regularly or have somewhere nearby where you can safely drive at 9/10ths, great, but if you live in a large urban area like I do that's pretty unlikely...
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Devon K Lieutenant 38 Rep 570 Posts Drives: TBD Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	The semi-consensus over on the CDN pricing thread is about $35k for the 128 coupe - we are assuming that this model compares more to the sedans than the coupes (it looks like a 2 door sedan after all) so that will put it at the price of the 323 sedan... less size, but bigger engine.
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herro First Lieutenant 22 Rep 339 Posts Drives: 4x4 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Eastside iTrader: (2)	Any specs (0-60, etc.) for the 128i (aside from hp/torque)? It seems as if the brochures and bulk of the media information available on the internet is for the 135i... strange when considering the 128i will most likely account for the bulk of US sales. Is the 128i so much uglier than the 135 that BMW is keeping it under wraps? Any other confirmed pictures of an undisguised 128i?
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Devon K Lieutenant 38 Rep 570 Posts Drives: TBD Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	I read somewhere 6 sec 0-60 for the 128i. You can probably couint on shaving .2-.3 sec off the 328i manual tranny times...
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Devon K Lieutenant 38 Rep 570 Posts Drives: TBD Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	More seriously, BMW does sometimes differentiate between the Canadian and US markets - for example, we have an additional model available here: the 323i, which is priced several thousand lower than the 325i but drops 30hp - a more "euro" configuration.
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redbird73 New Member 0 Rep 6 Posts Drives: Join Date: Jul 2007 iTrader: (0)	The 128i fits my budget and needs perfectly. I currently have a 2005 MINI Cooper S with 190HP, so the 128i will be a nice upgrade and a great track car. It seems the closest to the 2002. I can't wait to see official pricing and the build configurator on the BMW website! I also plan to do Euro delivery on this car. What are the best weather months to lap the Ring, so I can plan for a good delivery time?
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