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The part that interests me the most is about the steering feel. But because of the suspected fanboism, and the fact that it directly contradicts multiple reports so far, I will wait for more substantial and trustworthy reviews.
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Man looks like the first two mods are:
1. Ditch the runflats for a maybe 235/255 set up. 2. Look for a thicker rear bar. UUC are you listening? One of the first things I did to my 01 330ci when I bought new in august of 00 was slap UUC swaybariens on it. Looks like I will have to do that again with this car. :mad: |
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Very interesting read....
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Nobody on this board is a bigger supporter for an LSD on the 135i than I, but people should realize that adding an LSD will make the understeer worse in tight corners, not better.
So, I would consider adjustable swaybars a necessity for anyone who wants to add an LSD. I imagine that we'll see a bunch of coilover suspension upgrade kits in the aftermarket too that will help this issue (for a price)...
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11-01-2007, 12:25 PM | #27 |
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In spite of what BMW's marketing department would like you to believe, the 1-series isn't a reborn 2002 - it's far too portly and thirsty for that - but it is a return to the principles that have made BMW great.
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it's 5.3s to 62.5mph(100km/hr); that's equivalent to about 5.0-5.1s to 60mph.
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11-01-2007, 03:11 PM | #29 |
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Just read this in a review:
"There's too much inherent understeer, not enough steering feel and the sense that if you turned off all the safety systems and really drove the doors off it, then it might just reward your efforts with an unseemly excursion through the nearest hedge." But it was an Edmunds.com review of the Alfa-Romeo 8C Competizione. Looks like the 135i is in good company at least. ; -) |
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Negative camber is great at the track for cornering, but anything much more than -1 degree can be problematic on the road (and reduces straight-line braking ability on the track with significant settings). Camber plates can allow both a street and track setting, but there again, every change in camber also brings an unwanted change in toe, so you need to find a compromise setting there.
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11-02-2007, 12:52 AM | #34 |
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Compromises, compromises, so true. Give a little this to get a little of that. Luckily, with the M3 and GC camber plates we were able to set toe on the street camber setting so that when I adjusted camber to track max negative (-3.0) the toe, without adjusting it, went to 1/8" toe-out, which worked great for helping turn in and transitions.
Will the 135i suspension respond the same as an E36 M3? Not likely, so we will be doing some trial and error to sort out the handling characteristics each of us prefer for our set of workable compromises.
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11-02-2007, 02:18 AM | #35 |
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Man Garrett you are stirring up some storm on e90post. Especially from that guy O-cha
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I saw BMW 130 vs. Golf 32R on YouTube. Golf 32R actually handles MUCH better. 1-series suffer from oversteer regardless of 128, 130 or 135 there is some overhung of the L-6 engine and it is a small car. I still think it will be fun to drive.
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thats exactly how I like my fast - absurd
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I drove with that setting on the street and could not find any negatives (except perhaps some tramlining with the hard Michelin PS1). I guess we'll have to wait and experiment, but generally recent BMW's have responded very well to these small front camber increases. Let's hope it stays the same for the E82...
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Damn right Tesla, many dont understand that in FL its so helpful to be able to accelerate away from all the terrible drivers!!!
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Chassis balance is one of our few complaints, as the 135i is plagued by tire-howling understeer I don't think I've ever seen a review of a BMW cite chassis balance as a complaint. This company is going down the toilet. |
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