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BMW isnt really known for supporting their old vehicles outside of continuing to produce parts for them.
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Now if BMW replaces charging port with NACS port then how can those vehicles be called CCS BEVs ? On the other hand if BMW really means CCS BEVs will gain access to Tesla SC stations then that can be done via adapter only. This also implies that BMW will continue to manufacture BEVs with CCS port only. Keep in mind there already exists a whole lot of CCS charging stations and then the stations BMW wants to build in association with other OEMs will have both CCS and NACS charging capability so will BMW really put in a NACS port or just provide adapter. |
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I’m definitely happy with my next few cars being ICE until these standards bed down and consolidate over the next 5 years.
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It would be a massive own goal to hit them with some anti trust BS over providing a EV charging when that’s exactly what they want and need. Everyone else was welcome to build out their own infrastructure but Tesla did it best and fastest. I don’t think they even planned their charging biz to be a major revenue generator, it was built as more of a necessity to reassure customers that they would be able to charge on the go. This is no different to Apple starting to use the android charging standard, it just makes sense to have a uniform standard. If they started price gouging then that’s when the government would step in |
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They had no choice.
EVs are simply starting to accumulate on dealer lots. Just today on my inbox, local BMW dealer offering $24,500 off and first month payment free on i7s. $14,000 off on iX. In the same town Mercedes dealer was on CNBC explaining why MB EVs are piling up.
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This is the best choice moving forward for BMW’s customers.
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Couple months in MY2024 are already obsolete.
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They interviewed a couple, who actually had a MB EV (husband's), and liked it, but did not want to switch the wife's car to EV and be 100% dependent on EV because of charging concerns. He said that other than Tesla, the customers said the charging experience is too fraught. It is all about removing barriers for adoption. The EV enthusiasts rushed to buy - they even paid over MSRP. That gave everyone a false sense of demand. There will be 60 new EV models going on sale in the next 2 years in the US. Competition will be brutal. When has BMW before offered $24,500 off their flagship vehicle weeks after launching it?
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Every manufacturer will have to come down from the Covid sugar high. That is why I ordered the cheapest premium performance car - G87 M2. Can't lose that much money on it vs the crazy M3/M5 prices, when the correction comes. If the Chinese continue to move away from German cars and lease rates spike in the US, it will not be pretty.
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