Advan - M3 Sub Frame Bushings & Rear Arms

[DR-JEKL]

Originally Posted by flinchy

@ above LOL - no hiding for me either from @bmwlady


How much approx would they be to get made up? When the bushings from turner are $300/set plus post?

Bit hard to tell, but i reckon i could definately get it done cheaper. It would be nice to get them in the $250 ball park...

If we had buyers for say 6 sets it would be worthwhile to write a cnc program and once its written, machining times would be quite quick.

If it was for say 2 sets machining would be done manually and well a lot slower. As we all know time = $.

[MO3]

IMO instead of trying to reduce the parts' cost which is already $250 for the "tried" ones, we should look at reducing the install cost which is $1k!

[froop]

Originally Posted by MO3

IMO instead of trying to reduce the parts' cost which is already $250 for the "tried" ones, we should look at reducing the install cost which is $1k!

I thought install was closer to $600. Still very expensive regardless though.

[DR-JEKL]

Originally Posted by MO3

IMO instead of trying to reduce the parts' cost which is already $250 for the "tried" ones, we should look at reducing the install cost which is $1k!

Aint they $350 shipped?

Hmm cant really help there sorry Moe, changing the bushes is a big job and best left to the pros

[skidz]

well if someone wants to organise a GB put me down

[MO3]

Originally Posted by DR-JEKL

Aint they $350 shipped?

Hmm cant really help there sorry Moe, changing the bushes is a big job and best left to the pros

I was quoted $1250 fitted by a local vendor. The breakdown was $250 for parts and $1000 for fitting. (Not sure if that was a mates' rate though!). If we can find a mechanic to fit them for $600, I'm in.

[DR-JEKL]

Originally Posted by MO3

I was quoted $1250 fitted by a local vendor. The breakdown was $250 for parts and $1000 for fitting. (Not sure if that was a mates' rate though!). If we can find a mechanic to fit them for $600, I'm in.

That was probably for the M3 'rubber' bushes yeah? If so I can get them much cheaper than $250, but cant help you with the install as its always going to be a big job taking the rear subframe out of the car and to rip those bushes out (I imagine at least 5 hrs labour)

[flinchy]

Originally Posted by DR-JEKL

Bit hard to tell, but i reckon i could definately get it done cheaper. It would be nice to get them in the $250 ball park...

If we had buyers for say 6 sets it would be worthwhile to write a cnc program and once its written, machining times would be quite quick.

If it was for say 2 sets machining would be done manually and well a lot slower. As we all know time = $.

i'd be in for a set, maybe even two, if they were around the $250 mark

plus not having to pay the $50 shipping, that's a solid saving

[DR-JEKL]

Originally Posted by flinchy

i'd be in for a set, maybe even two, if they were around the $250 mark

plus not having to pay the $50 shipping, that's a solid saving

Well tbh those solid bushes from TMS are nice, but in engineering terms they aren't complex and would be quite simple to knock a set up.

It wouldn't really be worth the while for 1 or 2 sets, but if we could get 5+ buyers i think it would be worthwhile to pursue and start drafting up some drawings to get a quote.

[froop]

Originally Posted by DR-JEKL

Well tbh those solid bushes from TMS are nice, but in engineering terms they aren't complex and would be quite simple to knock a set up.

It wouldn't really be worth the while for 1 or 2 sets, but if we could get 5+ buyers i think it would be worthwhile to pursue and start drafting up some drawings to get a quote.

FYI, there are 2 different sets of TMS solid Aluminium rear subframe bushings for the E9x and E8x platforms. The non-M and the 1M/M3. They have different part numbers. I can't see why they're any different as even the picture on their website is the same but I was told that they weren't interchangeable.

I ordered the non-M ones but luckily caught out my "mistake" before they shipped it and had it swapped over.

[flinchy]

Originally Posted by DR-JEKL

Well tbh those solid bushes from TMS are nice, but in engineering terms they aren't complex and would be quite simple to knock a set up.

It wouldn't really be worth the while for 1 or 2 sets, but if we could get 5+ buyers i think it would be worthwhile to pursue and start drafting up some drawings to get a quote.

Would be worth checking out interest for i guess .. shouldn't be hard to get 5-10 sets pre-ordered i think?

Originally Posted by froop

FYI, there are 2 different sets of TMS solid Aluminium rear subframe bushings for the E9x and E8x platforms. The non-M and the 1M/M3. They have different part numbers. I can't see why they're any different as even the picture on their website is the same but I was told that they weren't interchangeable.

I ordered the non-M ones but luckily caught out my "mistake" before they shipped it and had it swapped over.

the thing is.. that makes no sense?

we (i mean that in the general 1er/3er non-m owner sense) put the OEM M3 bushings in our non-M's... so how is there possibly an M and non-M kit when the M bushes fit in non-M?

I just sent TMS an e-mail clarifying

i could possibly understand non-M bushings not fitting an M3/1M, not that i know exactly why... but when vice-versa fits fine, seems pointless to sell two different types for identical prices?

[Kiwi Peter]

Originally Posted by MO3

I was quoted $1250 fitted by a local vendor. The breakdown was $250 for parts and $1000 for fitting. (Not sure if that was a mates' rate though!). If we can find a mechanic to fit them for $600, I'm in.

Labour 5.5 hours = $750
Brake fluid flush & bleed = $110
Wheel Alignment = $120
Total $980.00
This is the Forum price.

If you can find someone to do it cheaper go for it as i cant help

[JB4-335]

I have a brand new set of 4 Genuine BMW M3 rear sub frame bushings if someone is interested. Price is $250 shipped anywhere in Australia.

[skidz]

imo if your going to do bushes you should do the rest of the M3 conversion at the same time

[froop]

Originally Posted by flinchy

the thing is.. that makes no sense?

we (i mean that in the general 1er/3er non-m owner sense) put the OEM M3 bushings in our non-M's... so how is there possibly an M and non-M kit when the M bushes fit in non-M?

I just sent TMS an e-mail clarifying

i could possibly understand non-M bushings not fitting an M3/1M, not that i know exactly why... but when vice-versa fits fine, seems pointless to sell two different types for identical prices?

Yeah I didn't understand it either which is why I almost ordered the wrong ones. I was advised that the non-M ones would not fit into an M rear subframe. Was not given a reason why though. I know that the subframe designs are different but I also know that the rubber bushings fit in both. Maybe there are very very slight tolerance differences which wouldn't affect a rubber bushing but would affect a solid aluminium one.

[TS135i]

Originally Posted by JB4135

I have a brand new set of 4 Genuine BMW M3 rear sub frame bushings if someone is interested. Price is $250 shipped anywhere in Australia.

That is a decent price if it includes delivery.

[flinchy]

Originally Posted by Peter@Advan

Labour 5.5 hours = $750
Brake fluid flush & bleed = $110
Wheel Alignment = $120
Total $980.00
This is the Forum price.

If you can find someone to do it cheaper go for it as i cant help

$136/hr? wow you're an expensive shop!

or is that normal for down there?

Originally Posted by froop

Yeah I didn't understand it either which is why I almost ordered the wrong ones. I was advised that the non-M ones would not fit into an M rear subframe. Was not given a reason why though. I know that the subframe designs are different but I also know that the rubber bushings fit in both. Maybe there are very very slight tolerance differences which wouldn't affect a rubber bushing but would affect a solid aluminium one.

yeah the reply i got was 'there are slight differences between the two'

literally.. that's it. no elaboration

I don't even know where to speculate on the difference in bushings, without having them both to look at haha.

i mean... yeah even the subframe designs can't be THAT different, as they do bolt up, as the bushings do :/.. so confusing.. surely someone has had them side by side before?