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There's been some debate about the European delivery price. Most logical guess so far is that due to the limited production of the car (assuming that is true), a dealer probably won't be willing to make the usual financial deal that you could make on other cars. But if you're willing to pay full MSRP (or whatever price you would pay to the dealership if you just picked it up from them), then it wouldn't cost the dealership anything. So in that case, I don't see any reason why you couldn't do ED. |
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11-09-2010, 08:17 PM | #533 | |
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11-10-2010, 06:28 PM | #535 |
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Interesting.. 332 ft-lb is the exact torque my 135i w/dinan put out on a mustang dyno, at the wheels.
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11-10-2010, 06:35 PM | #536 | |
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11-10-2010, 06:48 PM | #537 |
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That EPA website shows the 2011 N55 with manual on 135i at 20 city/28 hwy. So losing about 15% on mileage for about a 10% power increase. Doesn't seem like the greatest deal. Presume they'll do better with the next iteration of the 1M that's more likely to be based on the N55.
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11-10-2010, 07:01 PM | #538 | |
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1M will have 250 Kw or 340 PS (Din). The 135i has 225 Kw or 306 PS (Din). So... will the 1M still be worth the premium with only a 36 Hp advantage? I still think so. Remember BMW is under rating this engine (N54) in the past and I think now too. Dackel |
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11-10-2010, 08:19 PM | #539 |
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Cant see it being less than $46k base but possibly as high as $48k. With delivery and a couple options $50k+. If they're really only going to sell 500 of them here then you might be bending over and paying sticker. (That could just be marketing bs though.)
M3 coupe is a $15k premium over a 335i coupe remember. I bet we'll see at least a $10k premium over the ~$36k 135i and maybe even a little more. |
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11-15-2010, 01:39 AM | #541 |
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11-15-2010, 03:11 PM | #545 |
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Based on spec. numbers of 1M coupe so far, there is nothing special about it. With M3 conversion kit and KW3 coilovers , Camber plates, i bet 135i will outhandle this car on the track. We can tune 135i engine for less than $1000 and get a lot more power than 336. Ofcourse you can upgrade 1m coupes suspension and engine, but that money will be spent on top of premium payed for m badge.
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11-15-2010, 03:45 PM | #546 | |
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The whether or not you can make a better car than an M out of the regular series car has been around as long as the M car itself. So you will never win or lose. The general consensus is that the M car is a better starting platform...which it almost always is. Im really considering hanging up the vert hat in August for one of these. Too much crap going wrong with my car. Last edited by BrokenVert; 11-15-2010 at 05:15 PM.. |
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11-15-2010, 08:38 PM | #549 |
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In Aus a 135i RRP on the road is more in the $90k to 100k bracket (options dependent) and a M3 Sedan is $160k plus, retail on the road (options dependent). Somewhere in the middle, closer to the 135i, is where I think the 1M will hit. We shall see.
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