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Does not even come close, even tuned? The M3's engine is not that strong, sure it can rev, but my father's c5 z06 feels (is) faster. A 135i with tune only in the right weather will out accelerate a M3, especially if it is manual. |
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11-16-2010, 05:04 PM | #575 | |
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My vert stickered at 48K and I put a hefty down payment on it to keep lease payments low. I thought I would keep this car for quite a long time. and the way the residuals worked out it wouldve been a cheaper buy in the long run. I havent fully payed it off but trust me that it will have a low residual. |
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11-16-2010, 07:46 PM | #576 | |
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If the 1M is not a M car then neither is the E9x M3. The basis for the cars suspension are almost exactly the same. Springs and shocks should be the only difference. Also the 1M should be even better, or at least more entertaining, in handling than the current M3 with notably less weight and shorter wheelbase. Remember the current M3, that shares suspension with the 1M, still wins in comparison test with even newer cars with " up to date technology". Newer is not always better. Also when you mod you rarely test many combinations to get it right. I know this. I developed the HSK Mustang GT8, I was chief engineer, which was an enhanced Mustang for export to Germany in the late 1980's. Chassis tuning done correctly is more than bolt ons. Tires, all bushings, spring rates, shock damping, tires, sway bars, rear differential type, geometry and others have to be tuned together. The M division excels at this. This is why the M3, and most likely 1M, handle so well. I know many get down on the engine, why? The N54 has won numerous international awards and those who are running around with 400+ hp and 400+ lb/ft of torque are having a great time with them. An update on the N54 by the M division should be relevant and with mods far more powerful than the current M3. I know it is not naturally aspirated but niether will the next M3 be. I just get tired of people in denial that won't give BMW the cedit they deserve. I know I will loose money on my 135 but it will be worthy it. This will be a superior car to the 135i in every way and not cost that much more. All the 1M will need is a chip. |
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11-17-2010, 04:08 AM | #577 | |
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BUT IT IS NO REASON TO MINIMALISE IT UNDENIABLE QUALITIES AND DO AS IF IT IS NOT A TRUE M - CAR , CAUSE IT IS! |
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E30 chassis, M10 engine block, S38 head, ///M fairy dust=..........E30 M3. Almost every interior part is the same as the E30. Almost every exterior panel will bolt up with exception of the windshield, rear window/roof hump, rear quarters. Same tub, same floor, same suspension pickup points, ETC. E36 Chassis, (NA) M52 bored/tuned engine, M suspension and ///M fairy dust=....E36 M3 E46 Chassis, M54 engine+ ///M tweaks, ///M Suspension= E46 M3 E34 blah blah blah S38 =E34 M5 E39......M62+........=E39 M5 M Shall I go on? 135i chassis, N54+ ///M tweaks, + M3 suspension.....= 1 Series ///M Coupe. Quit your fucking whining and complaining and comparing and and and...... T |
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11-17-2010, 12:16 PM | #582 | |
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There have only been two engines hand built from the block up by the M division as far as I know.
The S65 and the M88. Even the V12 in the Maclaren F1 was based off of the production V12 in the 7 series |
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Formula m you do realize that the only difference between the N54B30 engines and supporting components between a 335is and a standard 335 is the engine software right?
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11-17-2010, 07:11 PM | #586 | |
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What we need is a bigger single turbo N54 plat, 2 oil coolers, 6 throttle bodies and skip the stupid DI. Sorry, I was just day dreaming. |
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11-17-2010, 07:22 PM | #587 | |
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11-17-2010, 07:29 PM | #589 | |
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Just to go way off topic. 0-200mph......just watch the speedo, not the tach.....
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Same speedo results on the road: All this proves is that with the proper engineering (BMW ///M), could produce similar results if allowed. Of course the market for such cars is not viable. The new 1M will be worthy of the moniker, but it will be nice to see the new ///M3 power plant and the Gen 2 1M power plant. With BMW entering DTM with the new M3, it will have this level of potential off the lot. Just look at the S14 variables, with DTM motorsport parts, that are still part numbers in the catalog today. How fa$t do you want to go? 400hp and 10,000 RPM is avail with 2.5l today with NOS off the shelf parts. 30-40k euro and you can this level S14. There has NEVER been a BMW ///M fail. Period. Even the NA E36 M3 was the best coupe in America at the time. This is where the S65 came from. It is a direct iteration of the BMW F1 V8 that turned 19000rpm. M3 Adjuster is a long time E30 M3 sig member and track junkie. We will get very good feedback as it pertains to a modified E30 M3 on the track and I don't think it will disappoint, but exceed all expectations. T |
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Not true. They looked at modifying the M70, but couldn't make it work- it was far too big/ heavy. The S70/2 was clean sheet, and shared no components, spacing, etc with the M70 7 series V12. When BMW made the SB50 euro M3 motor they essentially cut the S70/2 in half. FYI.
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