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01-06-2010, 11:31 AM | #46 |
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This is fantastic news, if it is real. I believe it, but thats only because BMW has come out with higher performance versions of the M3 a year before the model change before.
And those pictures up there make me smile. I really want this car. |
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01-06-2010, 11:39 AM | #48 | |
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There will be no more high revving motors (after the GTS which was really built b/c of the ALMS GT2 car), get over it. It is not feasible for a high revving naturally aspirated motor to get good mpg and emissions at THIS PRICE POINT. People make it sound like ///M is some exotic, it is not- exotics are cars the middle class can only dream of buying because of cost. Ferrari is a whole different level. When Ferrari builds a high revving naturally aspirated motor that turns in good EPA numbers then we may think BMW could. Though only if it reached some sort of scale- When you sell less than 1000 cars a month (///M) and have a pricepoint that is not sky high there is only so much you can do. Until then, the new ///M turbos are fantastic and have no characteristics of a turbo, go drive one- the real Jeremy Clarkson even said the turbo V8 is perfect. People just need to realize that things are done for a reason even though we might not immediately approve. I would even say that less than 5% of people have ever driven an ///M let alone a turbo version.
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01-06-2010, 11:42 AM | #51 |
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Yes i know south It is on order but the change is very little if you get one only 99 pieces and the price is almost 2 times an new M3.
I would love a smaller less big ///M but with high rev 6 i buy that next to the GTS if it will arrive with such engine. |
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01-06-2010, 11:43 AM | #52 |
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I don't see this M1 having only 15hp more than the upcoming 335iS, Z4iS and its own 135iS . Neither I see this M1 costing less than $47000 with CF roof, new fenders and LSD, unless there's some cheapo bits on it.
This M1 is too close for comfort to the M3 in the upper end pricewise and to those iS models in the lower end powerwise. |
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Good stuff! BMW continues to keep things fresh & exciting for a price under $400k. The next gen 1 series is already in testing & rolling around in Germany in camo. An M model on the current chassis would be suprising indeed.
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BMW always underrates their cars for insurance..
I bet 10 years ago you were saying: If I get a car with 200hp, it will be plenty.. It's not all about hp, it's about balance.. 350 will be plenty for 99.9% of us. and since it will be turbo'ed - I am sure aftermarket will fill your desire to mod. Quote:
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Not getting too hyped until I see something released from BMW itself. That "artist's rendering" was done in 2007, or it looks identical to one's posted here back then.
Also, I sincerely hope that 350hp is a wild guess. Any stock N54 dynos at 320 to the crank. A very safe $200 add-on will best 350hp. (yeah I know it is only one piece of an intricate puzzle, but still. I'm looking at a huge grain of salt with that "announcement") |
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01-06-2010, 11:54 AM | #57 | |
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10 years ago I was driving a superchaged Trans Am that was making about 400Hp, so no, I wasn't saying 200Hp would be plenty. The whole point of paying that much money for a car is so that I don't have to tune it and void the warranty. We've all seen how aggressive BMW has been on detecting tunes on the current engines....what do you think they're going to do on something like this? Besides that, for that same money there are other companies that will give me the power I'm looking for, so why turn to the aftermarket? |
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So we'll likely not see it in the US until late 2011 or early 2012? Hmmm... maybe I'll have to get that 135 SuperSports version in the meantime. I'm an early 2008 owner, so I may not be able to hold off until 2012.
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I don't see what is the relationship of your comment with mine. I'm not even talking about any 5 Series, much less a 535i.
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Since you seem to have a source for a 'definite price' please provide the link or source. |
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As I have said before- this may not make it to the US, the GTS is not here and this would require new crash testing, new emissions etc... let's just hope that it comes but that announcement won't be official for sometime.
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