02-09-2011, 07:44 PM | #45 |
Major General
427
Rep 6,968
Posts |
I switched from m3 waitlist to 135i waitlist back in 07. What a mistake, should have gotten a M3 and I would still be part of BMW family. My reasoning was 135i was able to provide 80-90% of the fun at significantly lower price point (35k starting back then)
If any of you is deciding between M3 and 1M go with the M3. Reliability of N54 is not worth the trouble.
__________________
- There's nothing in my pocket other than knives and lint
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-09-2011, 07:47 PM | #46 | |
Enlisted Member
2
Rep 44
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-09-2011, 07:49 PM | #47 | |
4 Star General -Twilight Zone
38
Rep 1,032
Posts |
Quote:
Why not be serious about that? It is basically a M3. M3 chassis shortened 3 inches. M3 suspension. M3 Brakes and rotors. M3 Comp style wheels.... Just a smaller engine. Also has Nurburgring track time as fast as it's big brother, M3... With a chip, you could smoke an M3, along with many other cars..... An "M" is an "M." Everyone has their own wants and needs in a car... For some on this forum, the 1M fits the bill |
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-09-2011, 07:53 PM | #48 | |
Lieutenant General
4986
Rep 10,210
Posts
Drives: 2024 Golf R / 718 SRS (on way)
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Dallas, TX
|
Quote:
That is a great problem to have my friend.
__________________
Past rides: 2022 718 Spyder, 2022 MINI JCW, 2016 981 BGTS, 2020 MINI JCW, 2017 F80, 2015 981 CS, 2014 F22 235, 2011 E82 135, 2008 E82 135, 2007 E92 328, 2007 E92 328 (My lady drives an OG M2. So does my dad)
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-09-2011, 08:00 PM | #49 |
Captain
68
Rep 939
Posts |
Better check your facts, sir. The e9x M3 official Nurburgring track time is better. You also don't know how it will do chipped, and it all depends on who's chipping. You can only go up to 380hp w/ the Dinan stage II.
Why not be serious about that? It is basically a M3. M3 chassis shortened 3 inches. M3 suspension. M3 Brakes and rotors. M3 Comp style wheels.... Just a smaller engine. Also has Nurburgring track time as fast as it's big brother, M3... With a chip, you could smoke an M3, along with many other cars..... An "M" is an "M." Everyone has their own wants and needs in a car... For some on this forum, the 1M fits the bill[/QUOTE] |
Appreciate
0
|
02-09-2011, 08:09 PM | #50 | |
4 Star General -Twilight Zone
38
Rep 1,032
Posts |
Quote:
http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/12/12/bm...r-than-e46-m3/ |
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-09-2011, 08:23 PM | #51 | |
Lieutenant
13
Rep 483
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-09-2011, 08:26 PM | #52 |
Lieutenant
13
Rep 483
Posts |
Nothing wrong with saying you will purchase a 135 over an M3...that's your personal preference. However in terms of performance, the M3 is a way better car than the 135, and that's a fact...there is no arguing that once you eliminate whatever personal preferences you may have.
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-09-2011, 08:28 PM | #53 | |
Lieutenant
13
Rep 483
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-09-2011, 08:44 PM | #54 | |
Major General
427
Rep 6,968
Posts |
Quote:
__________________
- There's nothing in my pocket other than knives and lint
Last edited by Robert; 02-09-2011 at 08:52 PM.. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-09-2011, 08:48 PM | #55 |
Captain
365
Rep 781
Posts
Drives: 2013 328i E92 LMB
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Brooklyn
|
I truly believe that this car will be "limited" in every sense of the word as according to the speculated production numbers. I just think BMWNA are trying to quell fears and not start a rat race for this car. They're not going to want to start bidding wars at dealers and piss off everyone that didn't get one. I went in to my dealer today and finalized my order. I know they are assured to get one (and I am #1 on the list) but I think it depends on what other dealers have as far as orders depending on the other cars that they may have allocated to them. So if they get another order in then they have a better chance getting another car. One of the dealer members on here said that they were definitely getting two cars alloted to them but were possibly getting a third. I think that the dealers who were offered possible additional cars want to fill those orders as soon as possible in order to get the extra customers that they know will be coming after this car. To me it sounds as if these cars are order only and NONE will be sitting on the lots. Just my .02.
__________________
BMW CCA Member# 481791 Current: 2013 E92 328i LMB/Saddle Brown (1 of 21 for E92 LCI in that combo), 2018 F31 330xi AW/Saddle Brown Sold: 2011 1M BS/Black, 2008 E90 328xi AW/Beige, 2001 E46 330xi SG/Black |
Appreciate
0
|
02-09-2011, 08:57 PM | #56 |
Lieutenant
13
Rep 483
Posts |
As stated...better in terms of performance. Performance includes RPMs, Torque, HP, 0-60, handling, lap times, automotive parts, sophistication of engine, suspension, DSC vs. DTC, etc.
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-09-2011, 09:18 PM | #57 | |
Captain
69
Rep 658
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-09-2011, 09:19 PM | #58 | |
Captain
69
Rep 658
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-09-2011, 09:28 PM | #59 |
Lieutenant
13
Rep 483
Posts |
Lucky you! Before I bought my M3 I had a 335 N54 engine and it sucked! My engine malfunction light came on about 12 different times and left me stranded quite a few times. I know someone with a 135 and an X6 and they bought experienced the same issues.
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-09-2011, 09:31 PM | #60 | |
Captain
69
Rep 658
Posts |
Quote:
This is something I accepted when buying the car though. I knew full well the HPFP problems. While it is sad to buy a BMW expecting it to fail, it is a price I'm ready to pay. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-09-2011, 09:37 PM | #61 | |
Lieutenant
13
Rep 483
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-09-2011, 09:38 PM | #62 | |
4 Star General -Twilight Zone
38
Rep 1,032
Posts |
Quote:
Not everyone will drop $70k on a M3 without considering other brands in that price bracket (that will out-perform an M3)... I think what people are trying to say here is, that the new 1M is more affordable, it has good performance numbers, and it's an M |
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-09-2011, 09:46 PM | #63 | |
Captain
69
Rep 658
Posts |
Heres to hoping the 1m won't share the same problem. Very wishful thinking me thinks!
Quote:
All this talk of the car not being a 'true' M car because of the engine, redline, etc etc is getting really old. An engine is not the be all end all of any car, nor does it's redline define it. The fact is this car will be a great performer for a great price. I think the initial drive will change many people's opinion of whether or not it deserves an M badge. In my mind it most certainly does, and my first drive will only further that thought in my mind. To me too, this car is kicking off the future of the M brand. All the M cars look as if they will be going to forced induction, which will in general suggest lower redlines, as well as the slue of other changes that come with it. Someone else was complaining that there was no carbon fiber roof. Paaa-lease, for such a low volume car asking for a carbon roof too is a little much. At under $50k this is a true bargain for a BMW M off the showroom floor no matter how you look at it. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-09-2011, 09:53 PM | #64 |
First Lieutenant
52
Rep 337
Posts |
+1
Let's reserve judgement until the first wave of press reviews comes out. Initial opinions from the community drivers as well as from EVO's Chris Harris were very encouraging, and suggested a linear power band that felt like a normally aspirated engine. So yes, let's wait for more facts and actual reviews to be published! (Please!) |
Appreciate
0
|
02-09-2011, 10:27 PM | #65 | |
Captain
14
Rep 602
Posts |
Quote:
__________________
BMW Performance Exhaust, Michelin Pilot Supersports F-225/40, R-255/35, BMW Performance Suspension, BMW Performance black kidneys, Quaife LSD, M3 rear sub-f bushings, M3 front control arm, rear guide rod and rear upper link kits, BMW Performance cross-drilled/slotted rotors, AFE Cold Air Intake. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
02-09-2011, 10:30 PM | #66 | |
Captain
14
Rep 602
Posts |
Quote:
__________________
BMW Performance Exhaust, Michelin Pilot Supersports F-225/40, R-255/35, BMW Performance Suspension, BMW Performance black kidneys, Quaife LSD, M3 rear sub-f bushings, M3 front control arm, rear guide rod and rear upper link kits, BMW Performance cross-drilled/slotted rotors, AFE Cold Air Intake. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
Post Reply |
Bookmarks |
|
|