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That said, to my eye the decreased steering angle is not speed dependant, so seems like a mechanical effect, not an aero one. The slowest corner on that track (5) is so dynamic with changes in elevation and camber that one never approaches steady state. All the other corners are longer and more directly comparable. Not that there is a huge variation in corner speeds to compare. Also, less steering is required at every point in the corner, even before there is appreciable cornering force generated. The decrease in steering angle seems to be proportional to steering angle, not speed or speed squared. That seems like a mechanical effect to me. |
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Partly inspired by your thread, I ended up doing a project replacing most of the rear ball joints with the Lemforder 3067901 joints. I ended up a local group buy for these and the parts turned out really well.
Installed the rear M3 control arms and pressed in the Lemforder ball joints in them. The mounting face for the arms is tapered so I did a simple CAD design and we got the adapter washers CNC'ed out of 304 stainless. The ball joints pressed into the trailing arm bushing locations. The ball joints were pressed to depth taking into account the thickness of the custom washers I already have the German Auto Solutions front monoball pressed into the M3 arms, and the rear end is now fully ball jointed apart from the inboard camber link. With this current setup I note that the rear end is a lot more stable and doesn't move around as much, less oversteer when I throw the car into a corner. Was suprised at the improvement even when not driving that hard. Addtionally I note the rear end is more compliant/comfortable over slow/medium bumps and less comfortable on sharp bumps. The damping overall seems to be better without the rubber bushes twisting up and contributing to the overall spring rate.
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Fixed up the image links, bimmerpost has broken them all
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If someone wanted the conical adapters could the cad files be shared, perhaps for a nominal fee? Hypothetically of course.
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Anyone interested in following how the project turned out from start to finish can see in my build thread here https://www.1addicts.com/forums/show....php?t=1302309 Installation notes Due to the fact that the Lemforder mounts are only 1.5mm narrower in width to the stock tapered bushings, there is no space to make a tapered washer 1.5mm thick. I ended up designing the washer to be 4.5mm thick, then pressing the ball joint offset 3mm to make the geometry the same. Illustrations here: https://www.1addicts.com/forums/show...&postcount=293
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10-09-2019, 01:37 PM | #53 |
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Thanks!
On a related note, will the lemforder ball joints fit in the non-m suspension arms?
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The curved upper camber arm has an additional benefit in that is provides extra clearance for the M sway bars if you ever wanted to go down that route. Otherwise at full droop the straight non M arm actually touches theM3 sway bars and certain aftermarket sway bars.
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I'm trying to decide between Turner/GAS and another option which claims it has more than 2.5x the impact & load bearing area... but I'm skeptical... |
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For your info, the crests on my worn out part measure 2.742" diameter. Looking at the worn crests it is apparent that they represent only about 50% of the bearing area. It is not unreasonable to assume that when new they only provided 40% (= 100% / 2.5) of the available bearing area, although I would guess even less. The diameter of the part I made to replace it is 2.758", with 100% bearing surface. |
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Can anybody confirm that Lemforder 3067901 is the same as Lemforder 33326792553? They look the same but I'm unsure about the dimensions.
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33326792553 has an OD of 47.3 mm. It is the standard outboard camber arm bearing that is pressed into the bearing carrier. |
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amazing thread, and ive done full sphericals front and rear as youve recommended on my e92 m3 except the rear absorbers. i run KW CS which on the bottom end is a rubber. looking for a spherical bearing OD 35mm ID M12 width 60mm hmmm any ideas? |
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Actual install is a ways off, but I don't anticipate any issues. The Millway rear inner camber bearings and RSFBs are on their way as well, but stuck in UPS limbo. I expect them to be as equally well made. They're also relatively inexpensive. The tension arm bearings were $250.44 shipped.
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For the bimmerworld inner camber arm kit, did you tac weld the gold sleeve or use something like sleeve retainer?
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